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Waxing Dog proofs ? #6557970
06/18/19 09:08 AM
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I have a mix of dog proofs that were stored in a tote that got exposed to the weather

and moisture got in and rusted them up pretty good.

Boiled them in lye and then sumac dye.

I'm considering waxing them to seal out rust and corrosion.

Good Idea or Not ?

What negative issues might result from this ?

Will they function properly afterwards or will it be nothing but headaches ?

They are mostly coon daggers along with some dukes, grizz's, and z-traps.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice.

w

Last edited by walleyed; 06/18/19 09:11 AM.

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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6557979
06/18/19 09:14 AM
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They will be headaches and fingeraches and the first or second coon caught will have most of the wax worn off. Better off cleaning them up good with a wire brush and dyeing them like you did and running them. Those $2 coon won't mind if your traps aren't waxed.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6557991
06/18/19 09:36 AM
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Guys that have waxed DPs say it ain't good, but if they are going into storage (which is the only time wax does much good) til the coon prices go up (could be long term) I say wax them good. If when you use them again they are finicky, just boil em ten minutes and the wax will come right off.
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>I'd probably just use diesel soak now and car wash when the coon go up.

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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6557993
06/18/19 09:42 AM
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I wax mine at the end of each season. NEVER pinched a finger and it keeps them from rusting. Like mentioned wax is gone after first coon but the purpose is to keep them from rusting during off season.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558099
06/18/19 01:12 PM
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I treat my dog proofs just like my conibear traps I hit them with steel wool or a pipe fitting wire brush then spray paint to me its way more durable .


Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558112
06/18/19 01:34 PM
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I would think it would make them tough to keep set. The trigger would keep sliding off , and prematurely trigger trap

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558115
06/18/19 01:42 PM
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If you wax just use a torch to remove the wax on the dog end and the trigger notch and your good to go. If It were me I would just paint them.


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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558250
06/18/19 06:31 PM
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Waste of time, first coon will polish them up to a "Fair Thee Well"!!


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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558394
06/18/19 10:07 PM
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I wax my griz getters. Never have trouble with them staying set.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558395
06/18/19 10:09 PM
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I wax mine. The coon do polish certain areas but the wax gets in many of the cracks that water and rust forms (pivot points, springs). . That wax keeps things from rusting and moving well. Wax is a good lubricant. All triggers are different. Mine are fine with wax on them. They are too stiff with rust on them, IMO.

To each his own.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: Calvin] #6558398
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Why would waxing a dogproof be different than any other trap?
Clean the dog and notch and good to go.

Zim

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558413
06/18/19 10:53 PM
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Thank you Zim. I was waiting for that.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558466
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I've always waxed my dog proofs, figured everyone did.


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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558476
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What the coon does to them is not relevant to what happens in storage. Rust prevention, be it wax, paint, grease, oil, driveway sealer is for when the traps are not being polished clean of rust by the animals, ie while in storage. When in use the animals provide rust removal.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: tjm] #6558484
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Originally Posted by tjm
What the coon does to them is not relevant to what happens in storage. Rust prevention, be it wax, paint, grease, oil, driveway sealer is for when the traps are not being polished clean of rust by the animals, ie while in storage. When in use the animals provide rust removal.


Pay attention.


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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558513
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What the Beav said. Make sure the wax is off the trigger connection before setting.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: The Beav] #6558528
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by tjm
What the coon does to them is not relevant to what happens in storage. Rust prevention, be it wax, paint, grease, oil, driveway sealer is for when the traps are not being polished clean of rust by the animals, ie while in storage. When in use the animals provide rust removal.


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Well,

I waxed all the DP's that had rusted while in storage.

They were fine when I put them in the tote three years ago but I figure wind blown snow got piled on top of the tote, melted, and formed a pool of water in which they sat and rusted quite badly.

Even the powder coated z-traps were rusted pretty good although I was able to clean them up with drastic measures.

I was looking for a long term storage solution to guard against the unexpected.

Didn't know if waxing would cause any unforetold issues so I figured I would ask the experts.

thanks for all thoughtful replies.

w


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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558575
06/19/19 10:31 AM
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the ones I waxed then caught mice , hair trigger.

I think it is the trigger design , when waxed it is more sensitive than a pan trap where you set the pan tension , the DP has a freely moving trigger it becomes very easy to trip when waxed. but if you clean that off well it should be close to normal pull.

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Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558576
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lubricate spring and dog area to save the spring and make sure dog rotates freely on pin. wd 40 or other light oil. coon will clean up rest.

Re: Waxing Dog proofs ? [Re: walleyed] #6558581
06/19/19 10:40 AM
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Maybe we can get Gibb to do a tutorial on how to prepare traps for storage laugh laugh

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