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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: trapperne] #6557443
06/17/19 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by trapperne
Originally Posted by BeaverDam
3 times the omega 3's in grassfed


Better believe it’s Berta beef


only berta beef

4 minutes, flip each minute, let rest, down the hatch


we only eat locally grown beef that we buy and have butchered - it is top notch IMO


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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Gary Benson] #6558235
06/18/19 06:05 PM
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Lancaster Farming I believe is where I got the info that the actual meat from a corn-fed Holstein steer grades higher than Angus. Holstein's big bones/frame tends to negate the improvement in meat quality. The buyers don't like to buy bones. Over 1/2 the ground beef in the grocery comes from animals with dairy genetics.


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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Gary Benson] #6558492
06/19/19 07:31 AM
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FWIW, the last 3 years we’ve bought either a half or quarter beef, pending on what’s available. These cattle are raised by the parents of our good friends. I visited with him last night about how these cattle are raised/fed. He said they’re fed alfalfa and grain daily. These are Holsteins, we’ve had a variety of beef from other breeds of cattle, from other sources. I don’t know if we’ve just been lucky, or it’s the breed, how they’re been fed...... I can’t prove anything, but without question these 3 (2 halves n 1 quarter) have been the most flavorful, tender meat we’ve ever had. I wince at the thought of having to buy elsewhere. I do ask the locker to please let ours hang as long as possible, before cutting n wrapping.

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: run] #6558527
06/19/19 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by run
Lancaster Farming I believe is where I got the info that the actual meat from a corn-fed Holstein steer grades higher than Angus. Holstein's big bones/frame tends to negate the improvement in meat quality. The buyers don't like to buy bones. Over 1/2 the ground beef in the grocery comes from animals with dairy genetics.

Yup, dairy cull cows.

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Diggerman] #6558811
06/19/19 09:52 PM
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Of the conventional beef market, Brazil owns a lot of the beef processing industry and many of our better cuts are moving out of country. China also owns Tyson so they have a huge stake in the poultry processing industry.

We keep wanting to spend a lot more on defense every year and we are being taken over by companies and countries buying up our food supply system.

Bryce

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: bblwi] #6559004
06/20/19 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Of the conventional beef market, Brazil owns a lot of the beef processing industry and many of our better cuts are moving out of country. China also owns Tyson so they have a huge stake in the poultry processing industry.

We keep wanting to spend a lot more on defense every year and we are being taken over by companies and countries buying up our food supply system.

Bryce

I agree with you,Bryce.


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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: bblwi] #6559373
06/20/19 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Of the conventional beef market, Brazil owns a lot of the beef processing industry and many of our better cuts are moving out of country. China also owns Tyson so they have a huge stake in the poultry processing industry.

We keep wanting to spend a lot more on defense every year and we are being taken over by companies and countries buying up our food supply system.

Bryce


Can you cite your source for China owning Tyson?

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: JTfromWV] #6559386
06/20/19 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JTfromWV
Originally Posted by bblwi
Of the conventional beef market, Brazil owns a lot of the beef processing industry and many of our better cuts are moving out of country. China also owns Tyson so they have a huge stake in the poultry processing industry.

We keep wanting to spend a lot more on defense every year and we are being taken over by companies and countries buying up our food supply system.

Bryce


Can you cite your source for China owning Tyson?


Last I checked they were out of Arkansas.

Yup,

World headquarters of Tyson Foods at 2200 Don Tyson Pkwy, Springdale, Arkansas

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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: DelawareRob] #6559480
06/20/19 11:23 PM
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My bad they are a target of the Chinese and there have been some misleading reports on Tyson importing chicken from China, but the Chinese own Smithfield Foods. My bad.

Bryce

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: bblwi] #6559483
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Originally Posted by bblwi
My bad they are a target of the Chinese and there have been some misleading reports on Tyson importing chicken from China, but the Chinese own Smithfield Foods. My bad.

Bryce


Thanks for the update. What company from America supports American pork producers?


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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: DelawareRob] #6559493
06/20/19 11:46 PM
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There is a national pork producers Association, but I don't know the companies who work with them or may be associate members etc. Asia is killing another 2 million plus pigs to slow the swine flu epidemic. It is interesting to see that there is not much reaction to that in the CME market as of yet. i hope we can keep this away. We have concentrated our hog industry and a few large farms can have a major impact on the supply.

Bryce

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Gary Benson] #6559556
06/21/19 07:13 AM
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Last year when pork producers received tariff payment for low prices - China was the biggest recipient as they own more pork in the US over any other country. I believe the 3 largest pork/beef packers in the US are now owned by foreign countries being China and Brazil as the largest.

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Gary Benson] #6559578
06/21/19 08:04 AM
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grain fed all the way. those grass fed SOBs are tough as shoe leather.


IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Gary Benson] #6559650
06/21/19 09:54 AM
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She went to the locker yesterday! I'll know in about 10 days. She definitely isn't a fat animal. And nowhere near 12-1300 lbs.


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Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: Gary Benson] #6559699
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There is an attempt to block a wealthy Brazilian from receiving millions f dollars from the farm bailout last year as he controls or owns considerable production in the USA.

Bryce

Re: Grass fed beef vs grain fed [Re: bblwi] #6559728
06/21/19 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
There is an attempt to block a wealthy Brazilian from receiving millions f dollars from the farm bailout last year as he controls or owns considerable production in the USA.

Bryce

Interesting.


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