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CCW Permit while traveling #6558872
06/20/19 12:34 AM
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Mike C Offline OP
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Ohio resident going on a trip and towing a camper that will take me through Minnesota and Illinois. Ohio has reciprocity with the other states I will be driving through. Question: what method(s) do I need to use when traveling through these two states? I am guessing gun unloaded, locked in a case in the trailer with the ammo in the truck. Does anyone know for sure?

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558891
06/20/19 05:44 AM
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Keep gun handy because all states may be dangerous.....


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Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558899
06/20/19 06:31 AM
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If your vehicle is moving your are very safe. Buy fuel at the border. Secure your firearms. Don't stop till you get to the other side. I carried for a lot of years on my semi. I never told people I was armed. Gun lived in my suitcase till I parked at night or had to walk into a rest area or something. Better to be armed and alive than allow a bunch of bureaucrats to take the rights your ancestors risked everything they had to give you.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558900
06/20/19 06:33 AM
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In today's world you're taking a chance no matter what you do. Some folks will just lay a handgun on the dash if they're pulled over...then it's not concealed. Some LEO appreciate that, some will freak out on you. My nephew in Nebraska was pulled over and had a gun laying on the back seat. A young deputy saw it and started screaming "he's got a gun!" They dragged him out and threw him on the road in sandburs and bullthorns. Sometimes you just can't win no matter how legal you are.


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Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558905
06/20/19 06:41 AM
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Gary in many states a gun on the dash is a FELONY.

New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, California, Illinois and others. You can not legally be armed no matter what you do.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558906
06/20/19 06:46 AM
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When we travel I keep an unloaded pistol and a full magazine in a compartment in the back hidden out of sight, and don't do things that would allow a cop to search the vehicle. I've never had any problems or given it much thought. I also don't have a CCW because I refuse to pay for the privilege of tucking my shirt over my gun.

Last edited by loosegoose; 06/20/19 06:47 AM.
Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558919
06/20/19 07:13 AM
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Danny gave sound advice and it is what I do. I don't like being unarmed so minimizing time in the particular state is my strategy. Others say not to do anything to give LE a reason to search your vehicle but that's not always something you can control. If involved in a bad wreck LE will probably be in your vehicle. The only thing worse than waking up in a hospital bed after a wreck is finding out you are also under arrest for a firearms violation.

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558928
06/20/19 07:40 AM
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In Illinois the gun needs to be unloaded and in a gun case ! Ammo can be in the case or in the magazine and in the case as long as the mag is not in the gun. The gun can be anywhere in the truck or car, in sight out of sight , within reach not within reach, don’t matter ! If you run down the interstate you don’t have to worry too much as the state police for the most part are the ones patrolling and they along with the DNR wrote the law on transporting a firearm.

The law reads ( any firearm needs to be unloaded and in a case ) it then goes on to say more about ammunition and magazines and.......

I’m not much help when it comes to CC as I don’t believe I need to have more than the second amendment!

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558948
06/20/19 08:12 AM
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When traveling TO a state - state law applies. If your destination is IL, or if you will be stopping in IL, you have to follow IL law.

When traveling THROUGH a state - federal FOPA law applies (Firearms Owner's Protection Act). As long as you are transporting the gun locked and unloaded you are good to go. It can be locked in the trunk, a tool box, or other lock box but not the center console or glove box. And, Ammo must be separate from the firearm.


-Ryan
Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558954
06/20/19 08:22 AM
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Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558978
06/20/19 09:03 AM
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Maintenance guy what good is an unloaded firearm locked in a tool box?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6558979
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Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Golf ball] #6558988
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
In Illinois the gun needs to be unloaded and in a gun case ! Ammo can be in the case or in the magazine and in the case as long as the mag is not in the gun. The gun can be anywhere in the truck or car, in sight out of sight , within reach not within reach, don’t matter ! If you run down the interstate you don’t have to worry too much as the state police for the most part are the ones patrolling and they along with the DNR wrote the law on transporting a firearm.

The law reads ( any firearm needs to be unloaded and in a case ) it then goes on to say more about ammunition and magazines and.......

I’m not much help when it comes to CC as I don’t believe I need to have more than the second amendment!

This is all correct - that said, the People's Communist Republik of IL does NOT recognize CC reciprocity with any other state. We have the "smartest" nanny politicians in the country looking out for the serfs... [sarcasm off]
SNIPERBBB has posted the website that will help.


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Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: danny clifton] #6558992
06/20/19 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Maintenance guy what good is an unloaded firearm locked in a tool box?

Well... you could throw it at a bad guy... but your point is absolutely correct.
That said, the center console in IL is recognized as a case. But you could be dealing with some local yocal who doesn't know much about the law so it's best to store it in a case.


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Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6559000
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Originally Posted by Mike C
Ohio resident going on a trip and towing a camper that will take me through Minnesota and Illinois. Ohio has reciprocity with the other states I will be driving through. Question: what method(s) do I need to use when traveling through these two states? I am guessing gun unloaded, locked in a case in the trailer with the ammo in the truck. Does anyone know for sure?


LOL if that is how you carry it leave it at home !!!!!! Only thing it would do is if someone breaks in they may steal it.

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: maintenanceguy] #6559003
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
When traveling TO a state - state law applies. If your destination is IL, or if you will be stopping in IL, you have to follow IL law.

When traveling THROUGH a state - federal FOPA law applies (Firearms Owner's Protection Act). As long as you are transporting the gun locked and unloaded you are good to go. It can be locked in the trunk, a tool box, or other lock box but not the center console or glove box. And, Ammo must be separate from the firearm.


You my be correct but a LE officer told me that if the compartment was part of the manufactured vehicle and was lockable then it was ok. But the clip has to be out and nothing in the chamber. Some consoles are not lockable and that is why lots of folks think they are not legal. My console on my Chevy has a lock.

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6559011
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Golf ball Illinois at one time had two different laws on firearms. The State Police had a stricter law than DNR. Haven't looked for awhile but ammo couldn't be accessible under State Police. But I do know that IL doesn't recognize any other states CCW. Really no one can transport a firearm in a vehicle through East St. Louis. You can own one but not transport. One of those head shakers.

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6559034
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Avail yourself of this terrific publication: "Travelers Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States"

https://www.gunlawguide.com/

Pete

Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: danny clifton] #6559045
06/20/19 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Maintenance guy what good is an unloaded firearm locked in a tool box?


I didn't write the law.


-Ryan
Re: CCW Permit while traveling [Re: Mike C] #6559057
06/20/19 11:17 AM
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I say keep it concealed in the Car . Its your 2nd Amendment right.. You have no legal obligation to tell anyone your carrying a firearm. And no cop can search your vehicle without a Probable cause.. So just drive like normal and arrive alive.

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