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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: brianmall] #6560357
06/22/19 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by brianmall
I'd like to know how bad Trump was about to mess them up before he called off attack.

I think he was on his way to ending them. Why did he call it off?

I'm so curious!


He said yesterday that he asked his generals how many casualties there would be, and he was told there would be about 150 dead. He decided that 150 lives wasn't an "in-kind" response to the loss of a drone, so he called it off. Apparently this was about 10 minutes before the poop hit the fan. Good for him, it was a good decision.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: kyron4] #6560358
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Originally Posted by kyron4
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I don't watch TV or movies. They're actors pretending to be somebody they're not.
911 was a boogeyman! Interesting. You go live in your liberal utopia.


LOL If anything this has been entertaining to say the least. "liberal utopia " lmao ! oh man that's a good one. Spit my coffee on that one.
.....whats funny is you seem to think that we want war....we are not the ones shooting down drones and promoting terrorism all over the world.......you better wake up and smell that coffee rather then spit it out,,lol

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: mnsota] #6560372
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Originally Posted by mnsota
Folks with heel spurs will be same no matter if we start something or not. And you can bet that no Trump, nor congressman or senator, will have to worry about their kid being delivered back to them in a bag.

Not a factual statement.


Do you mean folks who know a dr that will diagnose them with heel spurs can now be sent into combat? Or, did you mean that some of the congressmen and senators now serving or the trump family have had children killed in combat during our most recent war? Enlighten us.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560388
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96 total veterans in the 116th Congress.
30 are Democrats, 66 are Republicans.
19 will serve in the Senate, 77 will serve in the House.
48 served in the military after 2000.
21 served in the military in the 1960s or earlier.
19 are first-time lawmakers.
7 are women.
50 served in the Army, Army Reserve or Army National Guard.
17 served in the Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve.
17 served in the Air Force, Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard.
13 served in the Navy or Naval Reserve.
1 served in the Coast Guard.
source military times


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: brianmall] #6560389
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Originally Posted by brianmall
The one thing I'm concerned with and the question has already been posted earlier in this thread. Is that and why?: Are is Iran so trigger happy in picking a fight that is no doubt unwinnable? They know we have to reply in some form! It seems that they want us to reply with force? Why? We need to and have to reply! We can't let them continue to shoot our equipment, destroy oil tankers, commit acts of terror, nor attack other countries! It's simple!!!!! We have to stop them! But what is their strategy and logic in provoking us to wrath?


The current sanctions have the existing regime on their heels....a war gets all the people behind them instead of lots of people wanting them gone.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: gryhkl] #6560393
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Originally Posted by mnsota
Folks with heel spurs will be same no matter if we start something or not. And you can bet that no Trump, nor congressman or senator, will have to worry about their kid being delivered back to them in a bag.

Not a factual statement.


Do you mean folks who know a dr that will diagnose them with heel spurs can now be sent into combat? Or, did you mean that some of the congressmen and senators now serving or the trump family have had children killed in combat during our most recent war? Enlighten us.


Being in the military is inherently dangerous, even when no combat is going on. US soldiers die during training and transport too. As you should of already read, around 5% of US Congressmen have served in the military and around 3% to 6% of their children serve in any year, compared to 0.5% of the population as a whole. Please give us your evidence that these people, who willingly swore to protect the United States are using fraudulently obtained documents, to stay out of combat.

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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: Marty] #6560394
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by brianmall
The one thing I'm concerned with and the question has already been posted earlier in this thread. Is that and why?: Are is Iran so trigger happy in picking a fight that is no doubt unwinnable? They know we have to reply in some form! It seems that they want us to reply with force? Why? We need to and have to reply! We can't let them continue to shoot our equipment, destroy oil tankers, commit acts of terror, nor attack other countries! It's simple!!!!! We have to stop them! But what is their strategy and logic in provoking us to wrath?


The current sanctions have the existing regime on their heels....a war gets all the people behind them instead of lots of people wanting them gone.


The current regime knows what happened to Qaddafi, Saddam etc. For the life of me I cant figure out why they would start a war with a superior foe. None of this makes sense.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6560404
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor

The current regime knows what happened to Qaddafi, Saddam etc. For the life of me I cant figure out why they would start a war with a superior foe. None of this makes sense.


They can also see that the tali is still functioning in afgan and will probably wind up running that country again. The Persians are also a different people than the middle east/north africa folks.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560409
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Originally Posted by Donner
The current regime knows what happened to Qaddafi, Saddam etc. For the life of me I cant figure out why they would start a war with a superior foe. None of this makes sense.


First off, I think President Donald Trump's sanctions have hurt Iran badly enough that Iran's current government is in fear that the Iranian people will rise up and topple them from power. People can only take so much before they change governments. Iran does not have many options. A war with the US may unite their populace behind their government.

Second, Iran has seen their violence and threats work before. Look at the immense amount of money they scared obama into giving them to try and appease them. They are hoping America and the world will fold to their demands again.

Third, don't discount the power of 72 virgins. Iran's government is controlled by radical Shi'a Muslims, who truly believe they are called by God to push their religion on the world and who believe they will be rewarded if they die doing it. The Ayatollah will no doubt call any fight with the US a holy war and call for all Muslims to join with Iran against us.

Keith

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: KeithC] #6560410
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Donner
The current regime knows what happened to Qaddafi, Saddam etc. For the life of me I cant figure out why they would start a war with a superior foe. None of this makes sense.


First off, I think President Donald Trump's sanctions have hurt Iran badly enough that Iran's current government is in fear that the Iranian people will rise up and topple them from power. People can only take so much before they change governments. Iran does not have many options. A war with the US may unite their populace behind their government.

Second, Iran has seen their violence and threats work before. Look at the immense amount of money they scared obama into giving them to try and appease them. They are hoping America and the world will fold to their demands again.

Third, don't discount the power of 72 virgins. Iran's government is controlled by radical Shi'a Muslims, who truly believe they are called by God to push their religion on the world and who believe they will be rewarded if they die doing it.

Keith

I thought all this time the ayatollah speculated on coon pelts and invested millions in there purchase only to see falling oil prices devastate the coon market. Figgered if he could start a conflict that would raise oil prices he could rid himself of hundreds of thousands of deep freezers full of coon hides. grin

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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560497
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We can hurt them worse with sanctions and it hits the folks that count the money bags not some peasant walking next to a target that gets it as a casualty of war and brings us all the bad news.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560508
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"The current regime knows what happened to Qaddafi, Saddam etc. For the life of me I cant figure out why they would start a war with a superior foe. None of this makes sense."

donner.......a few reasons...........#1 . they know Russia has their back. its kinda like an unruly kid who does what he wants because his parents will back him . #2....iran wants a total..horrific war.............they belive their messiah will return..when one happens.and they are gonna help his arrival.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560513
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Iran doesn't want a war, the sanctions are crushing them. In a year they will be in the same boat as Venezuela.

Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560515
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The youngsters on here figure that since their Grandpa sprayed the farm for thistles back in 1945, things will be peachy and never have to be sprayed again.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560738
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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: Gary Benson] #6560739
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
The youngsters on here figure that since their Grandpa sprayed the farm for thistles back in 1945, things will be peachy and never have to be sprayed again.



gary, it scares me sometimes.............if we have an all out war like that again.......how many are gonna throw their hands up and say....not my fight.....instead of becoming part of a war machine like we was back in ww2.


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Re: go time in iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #6560747
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
The youngsters on here figure that since their Grandpa sprayed the farm for thistles back in 1945, things will be peachy and never have to be sprayed again.



gary, it scares me sometimes.............if we have an all out war like that again.......how many are gonna throw their hands up and say....not my fight.....instead of becoming part of a war machine like we was back in ww2.



Not if! But when?

The end goal for some of these dictatorships is global domination. For "everyone" to live under their rule. Period!

Worst thing you can do in a fight is: Not know your in one!

Some folks call us the world's police or say things like we shouldn't be over there because it isn't our business.

I say it is our business and call it preventative maintenance. We aren't on a conquest for global domination. Just don't want all the crazies out there to get the upper hand. Outside our politicians corrupt endeavors hat is.

Storm is commin weather you want it or not!

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I figure it will be like everything else today...….the oldtimers will have to step up and fight while the prime aged youngsters stay at home in Mom and Dad's basement.


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There is only one way to fight a war. You annihilate the enemy. Men women children and babies. You quit killing when the survivors have no desire to ever fight again. Then you rebuild and make it possible for the survivors to profit from peaceful relationships with America . Nobody is talking about that so I’m against it. Its just about taking tax dollars from hard working people and giving it to wealthy industrialists.


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You're right Danny. They don't feel a bit bad about coming to our country and killing ours, yet we're supposed to understand their hatred and let it go.


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