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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #6559928
06/21/19 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
I've always thought at times demand means more than prime.If the demand is there in October,but slips in December your December coyotes can bring less than the Octobers.


A rising tide floats all boats. I was shocked at some prices I got for coyotes killed way late in the season. Some rougher stuff but heavily furred. I couldn't have got those prices the previous year and doubtful I will get them the next sale. Timing often comes down to being more lucky than good. Ask the guys that sent junk to the first Idaho sale smile One thing is for sure, you can't sell what you don't have.

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6559935
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It's a given that the market dictates the degree of primness.


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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6559942
06/21/19 04:47 PM
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have any of you guys tried to trap coyotes in december in Wyoming? at 10000 feet?10 feet of snow? lol I will take October trapping anyday!!!! some coyotes will grade semi but catching 100 coyotes with ease compared to maybe 10 coyotes in December fighting the elements for a lot less coyotes....... no brainer there!!! ......100 coyotes at 60 average = 6000 dollars and 10 coyotes at 150 average is 1500 dollars and those numbers are based on personal experience trapping wyo!

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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6559961
06/21/19 05:12 PM
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It’s been stated on here many times by the experts. Elevation plays no part in fur primness. Lol!!

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: wallfur] #6559965
06/21/19 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wallfur
have any of you guys tried to trap coyotes in december in Wyoming? at 10000 feet?10 feet of snow? lol I will take October trapping anyday!!!! some coyotes will grade semi but catching 100 coyotes with ease compared to maybe 10 coyotes in December fighting the elements for a lot less coyotes....... no brainer there!!! ......100 coyotes at 60 average = 6000 dollars and 10 coyotes at 150 average is 1500 dollars and those numbers are based on personal experience trapping wyo!

That's my point here as well.Ever since I got into this game I've heard guys say the same thing,never trap until their prime.Our coyote are probably at their best in December.I'll take trapping numbers and Indian Summer weather in October anytime over so called prime coyotes in the blizzards and subzero cold of December.


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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: wallfur] #6559974
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Originally Posted by wallfur
have any of you guys tried to trap coyotes in december in Wyoming? at 10000 feet?10 feet of snow? lol I will take October trapping anyday!!!! some coyotes will grade semi but catching 100 coyotes with ease compared to maybe 10 coyotes in December fighting the elements for a lot less coyotes....... no brainer there!!! ......100 coyotes at 60 average = 6000 dollars and 10 coyotes at 150 average is 1500 dollars and those numbers are based on personal experience trapping wyo!


I work for an Ag Lender. When I first started one of the grumpy old loan officers said "never loan money to an agronomist, they can grow it perfectly but rarely profitably". Sounds like you got that figured out smile

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560181
06/22/19 12:12 AM
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In December 1981 or 1982 (in the fur boom) I was trapping in Southeast Arizona. A guy came into the area and introduced himself as Dan Bishop from New York. He said he was mostly just vacationing because he had done so well trapping fox in Wyoming. He said trapping in Wyoming was easy because everything came to the water. Something he said caused me to ask: "You were trapping fox in September?" He replied "I was trapping them in August." I said "August?" He said "Don't knock it. I averaged $20 apiece on them." I asked who paid $20 for August fox. He said he shipped all his fur to a guy in New York.

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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560182
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That sounds like a story,not on your part,on his.


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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560187
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back around that time early caught fox was in demand..(.because of the short hair mink look they have at that time)...mink were 110 dollars ..fox was 20 and the Chinese tried to substitute fox for mink.....lol that fashion didn't last long but yes I do remember that.

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560188
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Wish you and your friend well , Keep on doing it your way !


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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: Furvor] #6560189
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Originally Posted by Furvor
In December 1981 or 1982 (in the fur boom) I was trapping in Southeast Arizona. A guy came into the area and introduced himself as Dan Bishop from New York. He said he was mostly just vacationing because he had done so well trapping fox in Wyoming. He said trapping in Wyoming was easy because everything came to the water. Something he said caused me to ask: "You were trapping fox in September?" He replied "I was trapping them in August." I said "August?" He said "Don't knock it. I averaged $20 apiece on them." I asked who paid $20 for August fox. He said he shipped all his fur to a guy in New York.

I knew Dan and it really sounds like him , The old Q tip in the butt was a secret set of his .


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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560196
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start high early and work ypur way down


March 1, 1979 on my way back to Idaho I stopped and visited at season end with cat trapper Mel Hershberger at his home in Phoenix. He mentioned that he usually started at high elevation but in that season he had started low because of so many hunters up high. He said he was very pleased with the way starting low worked out.

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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560208
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Nice, did good for pink belly coyotes

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560343
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Not disputing you at all, it's just difficult to understand how early October Wyoming coyotes could average $104.00 and nothing in there caught after Oct. 15th.

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: The Beav] #6560524
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Groney tells us that Oct caught yotes are right up there with the best. I know several trappers that start In the middle of Oct. In ND and have $80.00 and $90.00 averages.


About an hour from the canadian border. My mid October coyote are usually semis. They grade as good semis, but they are typically semis at NAFA. Bet my average on October coyote which comprise mainly semis and a couple heavies, is about 70 dollars. The ones that grade heavy are graded as low quality heavies. That 70 dollar figure includes everything caught in that time frame, from the 25 dollar pups to the 90 dollar adults.

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560884
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Originally Posted by cathryn
AND he ought to know since charlie Dobbins taught him.



Being taught by one of the best only means you may catch more numbers. DOESN'T mean your fur will bring the highest price every time............

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: wy.wolfer] #6560885
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Not disputing you at all, it's just difficult to understand how early October Wyoming coyotes could average $104.00 and nothing in there caught after Oct. 15th.


yes you are lol....

you going to get a cussing

Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560925
06/23/19 12:23 PM
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Coyotes are similar to beaver in todays fur market.Only in reverse.
Prime coyotes don't bring a whole lot more than seconds.
And second grades of beaver don't bring a whole lot less than prime.

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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560935
06/23/19 12:37 PM
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Either way, enjoy this market while it lasts. It wont be here forever.


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Re: October caught wyoming yote value [Re: cathryn] #6560955
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yup enjoy it....I think we have seen the peak for coyotes or close to it! and there is only one way to go from there!

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