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Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester #6560443
06/22/19 03:44 PM
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I have done some work for a customer and the guy is a bit strapped for cash and offered as part payment a pre 64 Model 94 Winchester in good shape. Should I or not and what is a fair price as I don't want to take advantage of the guy. I think I should take it as I never had a lever action rifle and that should change. What does the collective think ?


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560458
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What's it chambered in Scuba?


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560462
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Caliber and condition count for everything. Sounds like you're in the driver's seat on the deal.

Remember you make the money on the buy a lot more often than on the sell. Maybe the same with those things that float?

Good on you for not wanting to take advantage of the guy, but he couldn't pay you in cash on time... so?

Pete

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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560463
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6-7 hundred. unless its other caliber than 30 30...... 25-20 25-35 ect jumps price a bunch


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560464
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I am thinking 30-30 like most of them .... at least he said plain Jane and that is the almost standard caliber of them I think. But I am far from an expert on all things lever action.


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560467
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most likely 30 30.... will hold its value even tho millions made.... be worthwhile running serial no might have been a military issue..low priced collectible gun that ya can get ammo at any store and go kill a deer


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560470
06/22/19 04:38 PM
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I would buy dies and load for it as I do with most all my guns .... just have to get round nosed 30 cal boooolits I guess. blush and that is as much as I know about lever action rifles lol


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560476
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Just my opinion, but before you invest in dies and such, IF it is a 30-30, try some factory stuff and see how it does. In general, Model 94's are not like the other rifles you've typed on here before when it comes to accuracy. If they make a 3 inch group at 100 yards they are a great deer gun in the forest, and you have other rifles for other stuff further out.

Pete

Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560479
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Pete its not so much about accurate with that particular rifle. I like to tweak loads and see what I can tickle out of them. Because A I can and B its fun for me and I get to play with said rifles to try things out. As good of an excuse as I can come up with to burn some powder and keep my eye in. I would be over the moon if I could hold a 3 inch group with open sights, never mind factory ammo or hand loads. Spending a bit of time at the loading bench is a relaxing zen thing for me. Other drink beer lol


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560506
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Scuba, the 37th edition of blue book of gun values has a standard model 94 (post 64) listed for 500 dollars@100%, and 200 dollars @ 80%. Gun broker has pre 64 model 94's from 500 to 700 dollars. It's all about condition. If you you choose to reload you may what to check out the lever evolution bullets I think from Hornady. They are safe for lever guns because of a polymer tips and provide better aerodynamics than the old roundnose bullets. I hope this helps.

Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: lestan101] #6560510
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Originally Posted by lestan101
Scuba, the 37th edition of blue book of gun values has a standard model 94 (post 64) listed for 500 dollars@100%, and 200 dollars @ 80%. Gun broker has pre 64 model 94's from 500 to 700 dollars. It's all about condition. If you you choose to reload you may what to check out the lever evolution bullets I think from Hornady. They are safe for lever guns because of a polymer tips and provide better aerodynamics than the old roundnose bullets. I hope this helps.

I love those rounds, hard to beat! I'm not a in the know guy on much in rifles but that Horandy round is amazing. If ya can tickle that to be better Scuba, you've accomplished something. As far as value, lestan nailed it imho, hopefully you and that fella can work something out so you can shoot that lever gun.


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560523
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you could always see what they are going for in similar condition at www.gunsamerica.com
Its a model 1894 actually, too
and once you have the ser no you can find the yr made at https://winchestercollector.org/dates/


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560525
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I'll have a look at it on Tuesday and will work something out with him. At this point I am pretty sure that I'll be the owner of a lever rifle in the near future. I only invested a couple of evenings and a 12 volt fridge compressor I had left over from a different job in this and a little refrigerant.


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560574
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Scuba. Buddy.


I figured you would have told us how it groups by now.

It’s a nice rifle and I like the irons. Not the ole block irons like some other rifles have, especially the newer ones. I don’t know much about guns, but I do know that.

Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560889
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...besides, you can slap one of those side scope mounts on it. I have an old school 4 power on mine. Think I might have to do some shooting today

Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560932
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This thread has me itching to get out grandpa's pre 64 32 special. Only real family relic i have. Not a great condition specimen. Nice enough. Wasnt cared for well early in its life. Stock is in good condition and a decent patina on the metal. 123xxx serial. I figured its value in 500 to 550 range.

Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6560995
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I shook hand on the rifle unseen for 600 bucks . But he is a good guy and would not try to pull one off on me after all he lives on his boat and I keep it afloat for him lol. The rifle is at his daughters place in NC and he will bring it down next month when he goes up there. Soo he asked if I also wanted a WWII M1 Garand lol but I think I'll pass on that one


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Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6561076
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
I shook hand on the rifle unseen for 600 bucks . But he is a good guy and would not try to pull one off on me after all he lives on his boat and I keep it afloat for him lol. The rifle is at his daughters place in NC and he will bring it down next month when he goes up there. Soo he asked if I also wanted a WWII M1 Garand lol but I think I'll pass on that one



Wise choice. I think you’ll like the 64.


Garand is a bucket lister, so is a Carbine. I’ve handled but never shot one. Carbine probably a little light for deer hunting, but I bet M1 carbines are a pleasure to shoot

Re: Pre 64 Mod 94 Winchester [Re: Scuba1] #6561086
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So you are saying I should take both ?? I have a SIG in 30-06 with switch barrel to .270 so .................. two sided sword here. I am covered for that caliber as far as hunting goes, not that I would use it on anything in TN as the 30-06 leave big holes to eat around and I can pretty much do what I want there with my 6.5 Grendel. On the other hand I already have the dies and stuff for the 30-06 so adding the M1 would not cost me a thing. Then the job I did for him would be paid as far as I am concerned. Anyway as a Kraut I would look silly with an M1..... we where usually more at the pointy end of those things in the past. crazy


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Pre 64..... you can’t go wrong....it’s my go to deer rifle ...when Iam not carrying my .62 cal Smoothbore Flintah. Like noted above ....how much blueing is left ...and dings and dents in the stock...all effect value


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