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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6555352
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Good to hear everyone's opinions and experiences.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: Dana I] #6555358
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2 points, first you called the Vet after typical treat didn't work and Second because your circumstance was so unique the Vet was clueless themselves proving the Vet didnt know anything more to do than typical treatment and ur situation wasn't a normal pinkeye problem. If I'm wrong about calling Vet about pinkeye why didn't you call them before treatment?

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6555378
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Dana 1, I'm glad to see a rotational grazier on here. I don't care what other people say about you- you're awesome.


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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: run] #6555489
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Below is just one of several links that will give some insight on the disease, signs, prevention, treatment etc.

My experience is decades old but we ran the cattle through chutes and sprayed with a topical antibiotic, many times put patches on the worst eyes and also housed inside if possible to get them out of the sun. We would use fly foggers on the animals as well when possible.
We did not have the vaccines back then or the really good fly control products of today.
Bryce

https://www.beefmagazine.com/health/vets-opinion/busting-pinkeye-in-cattle-0401

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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6555510
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I had some last two years that must have been different strain from previous ten years, got really bad individual cases that did severe and permanent damage. I just assumed that I could handle it as I had done previous ten years but had cases get out of hand. Now this year two cases in baby calves and one in yearling, but seems to be workable.

The problem with the medicated feed or crumbles now is pinkeye is off label, as far as I know vet can't prescribe them for an illness not on the label. He could write a prescription for something that is on the label though, like foot rot or maybe anaplasmosis? Which I think is on label. Wish I would have bought a pallet of it before it was restricted.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: Yes sir] #6555511
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Originally Posted by Yes sir

Yeah, you're right. Probably best to just to ask on the internet instead of call your vet who will help you with the problem and help you prevent it in the future. Good advise.

Its probably the cheapest and easiest thing to treat your cattle will get. I've treated more myself than a lot of vets will treat in there life time. LA 200 and it's that easy. My bosses brother is a Vet and they tried everything they could to both figure out what was causing and to stop it from happening. Went as far as have their own vaccine made. Even tried giving three different vaccines at the same. Accept it and treat with LA 200 and go on is what they got out of 2 years of trying. I had 3 years in a row I've treated over 100 a year. So u bet it's good advise.[/quote]

You wouldn't be such an expert and treating 1000s of cases if you would utilize a vet. A good vet will help you to establish Best Management Practices and treatment protocols so you don't have 1000s of cases.

You can work with a vet to fix the problem or keep wasting your money doing it your way. Some people will never learn.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: nvwrangler] #6555517
06/14/19 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
White face or bronco faced?
Need color and pigment around the eyes

We have 2 in our herd with white and pink - around the eye. We're butchering those and keeping jus the black pigmented from now on.


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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6555552
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Eye pigment is THEORIZED by some to help prevent cancer eye. It's not proven by any means, but a lot of people do accept it as fact. It does have some merit in theory, but it's never been proven.
But pink eye is entirely different. It's caused by flies and scratches to the eye. Pigment won't help in the least in preventing pink eye. Pasture and fly management are key. Very easy to do with a handful of cows. Much more difficult for large herds.

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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6555695
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Pawnee have you ever used the Penn atropine mix? I would be real interested in trying the resflor if it's that much better.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: M.Magis] #6555724
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Eye pigment is THEORIZED by some to help prevent cancer eye. It's not proven by any means, but a lot of people do accept it as fact. It does have some merit in theory, but it's never been proven.
But pink eye is entirely different. It's caused by flies and scratches to the eye. Pigment won't help in the least in preventing pink eye. Pasture and fly management are key. Very easy to do with a handful of cows. Much more difficult for large herds.


You maybe partly correct in your statement, in that it won't prevent all cases but pigment will reduce sunburn in that area which then causes the animal to scratch and or burns to the point of pealing and blisters then allowing flies to infect the area.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: nvwrangler] #6555827
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Originally Posted by M.Magis
Eye pigment is THEORIZED by some to help prevent cancer eye. It's not proven by any means, but a lot of people do accept it as fact. It does have some merit in theory, but it's never been proven.
But pink eye is entirely different. It's caused by flies and scratches to the eye. Pigment won't help in the least in preventing pink eye. Pasture and fly management are key. Very easy to do with a handful of cows. Much more difficult for large herds.


You maybe partly correct in your statement, in that it won't prevent all cases but pigment will reduce sunburn in that area which then causes the animal to scratch and or burns to the point of pealing and blisters then allowing flies to infect the area.

I understand what you’re saying in theory, but it takes a scratch to the cornea. It would seem unlikley an animal would not only get sun burned, but then scratch their own cornea while rubbing it. Certainly possible, but I wouldn’t think it would be common.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6563708
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Well how has it turned out? Have six or so cases myself, currently squirting pen into the eye as an experiment. Have resflor and atropine on order.

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: wr otis] #6563838
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Well how has it turned out? Have six or so cases myself, currently squirting pen into the eye as an experiment. Have resflor and atropine on order.



If we treated at the first sign of watery eyes it seemed to help. We used LA-200. Gave the shot and sprayed into the eye. Getting them out of the pasture with the tall, heavy forage seemed to help. Spoke to a neighbor who s is very "by the book", he also had the worst spell of pinkeye this year. He had vaccinated for it, and had the fly ear tags in, but still had a rough go of it.


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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6563849
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Seven different strains but vaccines only cover five I believe. Keep flies off best you can. If you can run them thru a head gate the upper eye lid shots are the way to go I'm my opinion. Where are you in ohio?

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: wr otis] #6563992
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Seven different strains but vaccines only cover five I believe. Keep flies off best you can. If you can run them thru a head gate the upper eye lid shots are the way to go I'm my opinion. Where are you in ohio?



15 minutes from where I -70 and I -77 meet.


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Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6564006
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late to the party here I guess, we went through a few years that were pretty thick with pink eye. we vaccinate, culled some of the cows that seemed to more easily get infected. gave up on the ear tags, saw little help with them, neighbor uses them religiously. if you have a darker place to keep them for a few days that does not hurt, I have used mastitis tubes, and the neomycin powder / puffers. catching them early is the best. I agree long swampy grass in a wet year like this seems to set you up for a lot of problems. but on the other hand I have had some good one eyed cows in the past. Good luck!

Re: Advice for pinkeye in cattle? [Re: amspoker] #6564392
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I would consider getting a vet in, there is one around wheeling I hear good about. Once you see those upper eyelid shots done you can do them yourself. Even better would be if he would give you his prescription medicine to keep doing it. If you have a handle on it then keep doing what you are doing. My opinion, keep flies off and keep a close eye out for blinky or watery eyes.

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