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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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06/30/19 12:59 PM
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Joe, I think you need to go up there and live for a while, so you can personally get a handle on the situation .
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/02/19 03:13 AM
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yukonjeff
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Lets comment on the crime in New York instead, Its much more interesting. You all have gang bangers, car jackings, armed robbery, ANTIFA, an opioid crises, crap on the streets, homeless, Gay Pride marches, oh and I am sure you have alcoholics as well. We dont have any of that other cool stuff here in bush Alaska.
We have problems with Alcohol , just like any other place do. Most bush villages outlaw the sale, so they are trying to get a handle on it (unlike New York)
As far as police protection. We should have public safety just like any other town in the US. Some folks don't realize that a lot of valuable resources like, fish, timber, minerals, gold, oil and gas.ALL come of out of bush Alaska. And with oil alone, the US government gets 60% of the revenue. That supports the welfare of Anchorage, Fairbanks, and yes ,even New York City, and then some.
The news source in your link is a Liberal Washington Post Rag. owned by the globalist that hate America, and wants all us Rural Americans to move to the cities to better control us.
No thanks.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/02/19 05:37 PM
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Orergon
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Huh. A dose of honesty and truth and he melts. Go figure.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/02/19 06:18 PM
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trapper les
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Far from being a snow flake, lol.
I'm not real nosy about what goes on in other locales. I haven't had a drink in more than 20 years, and I have my own way of handling drunken abusers that doesn't include LEs, lol.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/02/19 08:31 PM
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Orergon
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Well, he actually DIDN'T want to know what we thought, now did he?
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/03/19 03:43 PM
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Good post Jeff hard to imagine you and Pete as snowflakes it actually made me laugh . Another typical I don’t live there but I know how it is in Alaska post. Joepennanti So you know Pete has more balls than most when it comes to speaking up for the trappers in Alaska and has probably done as much or more than any one person oh ya he doesn’t live in the bush either anyway saw this at the beginning and wondered how far it would go before it got shut down by someone willing to respond thanks Jeff
Last edited by otterman; 07/03/19 05:09 PM.
We get out of life only as much as we really want and work hard enough to achieve
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/03/19 05:39 PM
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I've preached all around the world, in every state but California, Maine, and Hawaii, individual people everywhere have the same body, soul, and spirit, the same emotions, the same conscience, the ability to choose between right and wrong. The drunks at the bar I grew up next to Florida were just as likely to murder and rape as the drunks in bush villages in Alaska.The ability to sin is everywhere, but so is the ability to repent (Turn from.), ask forgiveness, and then do right. Others should be willing to forgive, and except in the case of a sin unto death, (Murder, rape.) allow the individual who is willing to do different to move on with their life. I do not conceal carry in bush villages, but I do in Anchorage and Fairbanks, where people have tried to rob me and my family several times. In the Lower 48, I conceal carry where it is legal for me to do so, as I feel much more uncomfortable traveling between big cities to preach than I do in bush villages. If believing in God, voting for Trump, having guns, being an outdoorsman, trying to live a moral life, admitting when I am wrong, asking forgiveness and getting up and dusting myself off and going on when I do fall makes me a snowflake, so be it.
Psalm 34:6
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: Pete in Frbks]
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07/05/19 05:34 PM
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I appreciate Otterman's kind words...
I must admit, that is the first time I have been called a "snowflake!" Ever...
Like AV said, if you ask for opinions, why would you be upset when those you queried actually did what you asked and gave you the benefit of their opinions? Especially opinions based on EXPERIENCE (not to mention, in my case, the wisdom of age!)
Pete
Maybe the same smart donkey that doctored my handle can turn your name white and put "Snowflake" as your tittle, lol!
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: martentrapper]
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07/07/19 09:35 AM
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Pete in Frbks
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Most all cities in the lower 48 have a police force or at least a county sherriff and deputies. They have that because they have a tax base of property owners and working stiffs, as well as a few businesses to TAX! Tax money provides for policing.
Rural Alaska does not have any of that for the most part. At least they don't have enough to support police. Lack of police is definately part of the problem.
There are other differences in rural Alaska than the lower 48 as well, I think.
More policing may help, but I think there are attitudes and ideas in rural Alaska that must change before real change will come.
mt Exactly. It will take "cultural change" to get better. Pete
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/16/19 10:33 AM
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I spent the last month watching organized crime ,primarily nonresident guides and fishermen illegally fishing for king salmon during a closed season with a little help from resident air taxi services.
Residents are not allowed tp fish or keep even one fish, yet a blind eye is turned to the comercial abuse of the resource when there is a conservation problem?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/16/19 03:06 PM
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I met up with a CO one day near my trapline.He had a snow machine,sleigh and a bunchof 5gal jugs of gas and some overnight stuff.
I asked him where he was headed,he said there was a report of two guys fishing at a remote lake and staying in an outfitters cabin.He was sneaking in to gather some evidence and arrest them.from where he was,it was about a 150 mile trip one way breaking trail thru the bush.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: Boco]
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07/17/19 05:31 PM
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I met up with a CO one day near my trapline.He had a snow machine,sleigh and a bunchof 5gal jugs of gas and some overnight stuff.
I asked him where he was headed,he said there was a report of two guys fishing at a remote lake and staying in an outfitters cabin.He was sneaking in to gather some evidence and arrest them.from where he was,it was about a 150 mile trip one way breaking trail thru the bush. We had a CO up here like that, but he retired....now its every man for himself!
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/18/19 12:37 PM
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Jeff. Each to his own but a couple of facts. 1. I’m an 8 hr drive NE of rotten NY City. You mentioned a number of lousy things in/around cities. I agree with NEAR these (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) holes. Not a problem here. Please take the time to look at a map of NY.
2. On MY property I trap beaver, mink, otter, coon, rats, coyotes, red and gray fox, fisher, and bobcats.
No bag limits and for some critters 6 month season.
All of Alaska is not the same, neither is NY.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/27/19 11:40 AM
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As some of you may know I'm trying to move to the interior in the somewhat near future. I had a customer come in yesterday to my work with Alaska plates. After helping them, I commented on their Alaska plate and asked where they were from. They said Seward and that they absolutely hated Alaska and would never go back. He said the crime and drugs was out of control. I mentioned that I was looking to move to the interior and he said "well you better move soon because the whole state is in the toilet, because of the heroin addicts and car jackings. Oh and Seward has become the gay capital of Alaska." I couldn't help but think that this is only one guy's opinion (and the first I've really heard someone from Alaska talk about the state that way). He said I would be crazy to leave Idaho. But something about the guy led me to believe that he was exaggerating. Or that maybe it was just his area of Alaska in particular that had those types of severe crime issues and that he just had a bad taste in his mouth. I'm thinking I'm going to visit some towns in the interior before I actually move up there to get a look for myself. If any of you want to meet up for some fishing or bird hunting, I'm probably planning on September of 2020 for a visit.
Real name Eric
The sharpest hammer in the box of crayons.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/27/19 12:23 PM
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Orergon
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Don't know about Seward, but plenty of theft and break-ins around here. Mostly drug-related.
And, the State is financially broke.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: Wild_Idaho]
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07/27/19 09:50 PM
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As some of you may know I'm trying to move to the interior in the somewhat near future. I had a customer come in yesterday to my work with Alaska plates. After helping them, I commented on their Alaska plate and asked where they were from. They said Seward and that they absolutely hated Alaska and would never go back. He said the crime and drugs was out of control. I mentioned that I was looking to move to the interior and he said "well you better move soon because the whole state is in the toilet, because of the heroin addicts and car jackings. Oh and Seward has become the gay capital of Alaska." I couldn't help but think that this is only one guy's opinion (and the first I've really heard someone from Alaska talk about the state that way). He said I would be crazy to leave Idaho. But something about the guy led me to believe that he was exaggerating. Or that maybe it was just his area of Alaska in particular that had those types of severe crime issues and that he just had a bad taste in his mouth. I'm thinking I'm going to visit some towns in the interior before I actually move up there to get a look for myself. If any of you want to meet up for some fishing or bird hunting, I'm probably planning on September of 2020 for a visit. Spent a short time in Seward this spring......from my short observation I would say the fellow you talked to was pretty much correct. A real close friend is a state trooper up in Anchorage and he says its so bad he's going to quit and move back to Yukon. Stay in Idaho, you wont be disappointed that way....
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush?
[Re: joepennanti]
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07/28/19 10:42 PM
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Just like everywhere else in this country Alaska has a relatively large percentage of people who can't deal with life on a daily basis. They have turned to drugs and alcohol to escape, can't hold a job and have lost any sense of morality if they ever had one.
This is what happens when there is no accountability.
It would be an act of mercy if they were shot and killed in the commission of a crime.
formerly posting as white dog
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I would have paid to see that ..... 
