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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6564807
06/29/19 02:23 PM
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The feathers or other parts are just as illegal to most of us as a dead eagle we killed .That I know to be a fact [Linked Image]


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6564813
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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6564824
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My understanding of the meaning behind a headdress is much different than whatís been posted so far. I know trapping or shooting them has caught on in more recent times as the demand has increased for traditional clothing for pow wows and other ceremonial purposes. I was always told that a headdress makes a powerful statement because the feathers were given to an individual based on his accomplishments in hunting, battles, leadership etc
A deserving person would have a collection of feathers that reflects their accomplishments in life and a collection large enough would show that the individual was deserving of being a leader. Iím sure a couple of you will discredit this idea as it is different from your own but Iím sharing this because itís what I was taught. Iím in no mood to debate so take my comment with a grain of salt.


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6564857
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Ryan, that's what I've always been told also.


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: logger coffey] #6564871
06/29/19 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by logger coffey
Come on now snowy, with your talent i belive you could make one heck of a war bonnet.

Right in the iron bar hotel. LOL

Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: muskrat411] #6564872
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Originally Posted by muskrat411
If a guy could find an old nest tree there probably some classic old rat traps hurried under all the piles of bones. From the air I have seen trees with a nest and circles of white 50' around. Those nests must have been used for a long time.

WOW! Now that would be something to explore.

Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: Ryan McLeod] #6564873
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Originally Posted by Ryan McLeod
My understanding of the meaning behind a headdress is much different than what’s been posted so far. I know trapping or shooting them has caught on in more recent times as the demand has increased for traditional clothing for pow wows and other ceremonial purposes. I was always told that a headdress makes a powerful statement because the feathers were given to an individual based on his accomplishments in hunting, battles, leadership etc
A deserving person would have a collection of feathers that reflects their accomplishments in life and a collection large enough would show that the individual was deserving of being a leader. I’m sure a couple of you will discredit this idea as it is different from your own but I’m sharing this because it’s what I was taught. I’m in no mood to debate so take my comment with a grain of salt.

Yes, that is true from what I was taught also.

Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6564979
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The Eskimoís made a polar bear trap that was similar except they dug a hole in the ice and put a fish in it. When the polar bear bent over to get the fish they snuck behind him and kicked him right in the ice hole.

Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6564983
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One thing I have not seen mentioned, bald eagles were not desired for feathers. Immature goldens had the desired coloration.


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6565025
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My daughter was Involved In some eagle studies here in WI. She climbed lots of trees and checked out nests. She supplied me with 50 or 60 fishing lures. Never found any traps though.


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: The Beav] #6565108
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Originally Posted by The Beav
My daughter was Involved In some eagle studies here in WI. She climbed lots of trees and checked out nests. She supplied me with 50 or 60 fishing lures. Never found any traps though.

That is interesting. So, how do you think they collected those lures? You think they just find them laying on shore lines or what are your thoughts?

Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6565133
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When I was a GP... I learned what hurt as bad as bare knuckles or a club was Ö Canada Goose's wings, a Swans wings and most of a Bald Eagle Ö I had opportunity or should I say the obligation Ö rescuing the last three birds many times, especially Canada Geese. We did have one occasion where we had to rescue a flock of about 40 Swans that had landed in a pool of water in a plowed corn field. When evening got there they tried to take off and there feet clog with mud and froze and they couldn't fly. 5 of went out in the field and almost got stuck ourselves. Eventually, we got them as well as ourselves out of the field. I had to rescue 2 injured bald Eagles. They weren't real happy about being handled. I lost the finger tip of a good pair of leather gloves and had numerous rips in jacket and scratches on my arms from their talons and beak..Handled too many geese to count. They all beat the devil out of you with their wings

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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: The Beav] #6565281
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Originally Posted by The Beav
My daughter was Involved In some eagle studies here in WI. She climbed lots of trees and checked out nests. She supplied me with 50 or 60 fishing lures. Never found any traps though.

Now Thats Cool !


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6565284
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Originally Posted by snowy
Originally Posted by muskrat411
If a guy could find an old nest tree there probably some classic old rat traps hurried under all the piles of bones. From the air I have seen trees with a nest and circles of white 50' around. Those nests must have been used for a long time.

WOW! Now that would be something to explore.

And Fun too! As long as the nest was vacant grin


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6565360
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I was talking to someone who studies eagles' nests and they told me that active nests have an incredible amount of maggots in them, that eat all the leftovers.

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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: tomahawker] #6565405
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
The Eskimoís made a polar bear trap that was similar except they dug a hole in the ice and put a fish in it. When the polar bear bent over to get the fish they snuck behind him and kicked him right in the ice hole.


No, no, no...

You dig the hole in the ice and put peas around it... When the bear stops to take a pea you kick him in the ice hole.

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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: Snowpa] #6565408
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
The feathers or other parts are just as illegal to most of us as a dead eagle we killed .That I know to be a fact [Linked Image]


You killed a dead eagle?


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Re: Native American bald eagle trap [Re: snowy] #6565420
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Anglers catch fish and some of those fish break off and carry away the lure. They all die if they can't shake the lure. These fish float to the surface and the eagles carry them away to their nest. Eagles are for the most part scavengers.
From what my daughter told me they were all still In the nest so eagles aren't much for house cleaning.

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