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Weed killer #6566921
07/02/19 10:09 PM
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Was at TSC the other day and thought I would try this instead of round up . Has anyone used it and if so what was the results?

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Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6566925
07/02/19 10:11 PM
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Same as round up.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6566926
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Same as round up.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6566973
07/02/19 11:07 PM
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Up to a year? I thought round up was 10 days before things would grow.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6566981
07/02/19 11:17 PM
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1 year ? Please report back in 6 months. I buy the TSC Roundup "knock off" concentrate 41% and it is every bit as good as Round up for a fraction of the price. It keep weeds dead for 3 to 4 weeks.

Re: Weed killer [Re: kyron4] #6566999
07/02/19 11:32 PM
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It has imazapyr in it along with glyphosate (roundup). Imazapyr will give you residual control of grass and weeds. Imazapyr is a very common herbicide in the forestry industry. Be careful with this product around trees, it will kill them. It also has soil activity hence the residual control so it will move around on you. Be sure to follow the label.

Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567037
07/03/19 05:39 AM
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Just don't use it on dandelions. The bees, you know....


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567042
07/03/19 06:02 AM
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So it will kill brush?

Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567046
07/03/19 06:22 AM
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This has two ingredients.

Glyphosate is Roundup. Roundup is absorbed by any green part of the plant and stops photosynthesis. The plant can't make sugar from sunlight any more and it dies. Roundup has absolutely no residual action. Because it is absorbed by leaves and green stems, it won't hurt a plant if it's in the soil. You can spray roundup this morning and plant something in the same spot this afternoon - as long as you don't get the roundup on the leaves or stems of the new plant.

imazapyr is absorbed by the roots and prevents the plant from making some proteins it needs to grow. Because it's absorbed by the roots, it has some residual action. The next plant will die too if it's in the same soil. But, Imazapyr moves in the soil with rain. If you spray a 6" wide strip under a fence, you might end up with a 2' wide dead zone because it moves. As long as it's in the soil it will still do it's job. Because it's absorbed by roots, you have to be careful not to spray it near the roots of anything you don't want to kill.

My preference for residual control is Roundup + Surflan. Roundup kills the plants that are there now. Surflan prevents new seeds from germinating. Surflan does not harm plants that have already germinated. Surflan is used to control weeds in corn and other crops by spraying over the corn that has already emerged and does no damage to the corn. I can spray it under the canopy of trees or in other areas where there are roots. It binds to the soil so it stays where I spray it. Roundup kills growing plants, Surflan stops new ones from sprouting. Control is up to 12 months.

The only down side of Surflan is that it includes a bright orange marker to make it easier to see where your last pass was with the sprayer. That's fine until you're spraying near a sidewalk or other place where you don't want bright orange spray.


-Ryan
Re: Weed killer [Re: trapNH] #6567062
07/03/19 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by trapNH
So it will kill brush?


Yes.

Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567069
07/03/19 07:28 AM
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Isnt there a large class action lawsuit going on over that stuff-a bunch of people with cancer?


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567096
07/03/19 08:05 AM
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First individual already won their case last year against Monsanto......

Re: Weed killer [Re: Boco] #6567110
07/03/19 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Isnt there a large class action lawsuit going on over that stuff-a bunch of people with cancer?

X2


wanna be goat farmer.
Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567132
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Same as round-up 365. Has preventer in it....

Re: Weed killer [Re: maintenanceguy] #6567133
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
This has two ingredients.

Glyphosate is Roundup. Roundup is absorbed by any green part of the plant and stops photosynthesis. The plant can't make sugar from sunlight any more and it dies. Roundup has absolutely no residual action. Because it is absorbed by leaves and green stems, it won't hurt a plant if it's in the soil. You can spray roundup this morning and plant something in the same spot this afternoon - as long as you don't get the roundup on the leaves or stems of the new plant.

imazapyr is absorbed by the roots and prevents the plant from making some proteins it needs to grow. Because it's absorbed by the roots, it has some residual action. The next plant will die too if it's in the same soil. But, Imazapyr moves in the soil with rain. If you spray a 6" wide strip under a fence, you might end up with a 2' wide dead zone because it moves. As long as it's in the soil it will still do it's job. Because it's absorbed by roots, you have to be careful not to spray it near the roots of anything you don't want to kill.

My preference for residual control is Roundup + Surflan. Roundup kills the plants that are there now. Surflan prevents new seeds from germinating. Surflan does not harm plants that have already germinated. Surflan is used to control weeds in corn and other crops by spraying over the corn that has already emerged and does no damage to the corn. I can spray it under the canopy of trees or in other areas where there are roots. It binds to the soil so it stays where I spray it. Roundup kills growing plants, Surflan stops new ones from sprouting. Control is up to 12 months.

The only down side of Surflan is that it includes a bright orange marker to make it easier to see where your last pass was with the sprayer. That's fine until you're spraying near a sidewalk or other place where you don't want bright orange spray.


Yea what he said^^^^^^^^

Re: Weed killer [Re: jbyrd63] #6567181
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
This has two ingredients.

Glyphosate is Roundup. Roundup is absorbed by any green part of the plant and stops photosynthesis. The plant can't make sugar from sunlight any more and it dies. Roundup has absolutely no residual action. Because it is absorbed by leaves and green stems, it won't hurt a plant if it's in the soil. You can spray roundup this morning and plant something in the same spot this afternoon - as long as you don't get the roundup on the leaves or stems of the new plant.

imazapyr is absorbed by the roots and prevents the plant from making some proteins it needs to grow. Because it's absorbed by the roots, it has some residual action. The next plant will die too if it's in the same soil. But, Imazapyr moves in the soil with rain. If you spray a 6" wide strip under a fence, you might end up with a 2' wide dead zone because it moves. As long as it's in the soil it will still do it's job. Because it's absorbed by roots, you have to be careful not to spray it near the roots of anything you don't want to kill.

My preference for residual control is Roundup + Surflan. Roundup kills the plants that are there now. Surflan prevents new seeds from germinating. Surflan does not harm plants that have already germinated. Surflan is used to control weeds in corn and other crops by spraying over the corn that has already emerged and does no damage to the corn. I can spray it under the canopy of trees or in other areas where there are roots. It binds to the soil so it stays where I spray it. Roundup kills growing plants, Surflan stops new ones from sprouting. Control is up to 12 months.

The only down side of Surflan is that it includes a bright orange marker to make it easier to see where your last pass was with the sprayer. That's fine until you're spraying near a sidewalk or other place where you don't want bright orange spray.


Yea what he said^^^^^^^^

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Re: Weed killer [Re: Tommie] #6567183
07/03/19 10:11 AM
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An added note that here grasses are the reoccurring pest rather than woody species so we use a variety of products to kill the existing vegetation with a companion herbicide for any grasses first and broad-leaves second. Prowl (pendimethalin), and Dual II (S-metolachlor) are both registered for mixing with Roundup (glyphosate) for many ag crops and garden crops selective spot spraying. They are residual and handle grasses best and a few broad-leaf species but are not good on trees or brush "come backs". They have have been used for years. Treflan/Preen (trifluralin) is registered and used on both ag and garden crops and are close cousins to Surflan. Their drawback is they must be tilled or watered in w/i 24 hours for their effective use. They are not registered for mixing w/ glyphosate due to the tillage option as UV light breaks the chem bond in them. And they are only fair on brush seedlings. Other than your mentioned product a 2 pass herbicide treatment (Round Up then a Brush killer residual) is your next best alternative which you may want to consider after the Roundup removes the overstory and you can see what (species) you have to deal with..... the mike

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