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Officer involved shooting GA #6567122
07/03/19 08:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MW...HTDBxCnGi5jvBzKPB84oQ&has_verified=1

Good body cam video from a very recent Officer involved shooting. Sure illustrates how multiple rounds into a perp don't always stop the attack.

A lot of people around here would call that excessive force if they read an article outlining the details on this one.
Hope that Officer is O.K.

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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567136
07/03/19 09:08 AM
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Hats off to the men and women that do that job. That situation was never going to end well, hope the officer can get back on his feet.

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567151
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if you can't watch the video , guy in a yellow shirt with a knife at what looks like an apartment complex police start asking him, pleading with him to put the knife down , over and over you can hear in the cops voice he doesn't want to shoot he walks at them and they keep backing up till he is out on the highway , he gave the guy probably close to 100 yards backing up pleading with him. calling for more backup.

when the officer realizes that he is running out of room to give he tells his partner less lethal ,can't see the partner at that point but basically as soon as he says less lethal the yellow shirt guy runs at him with the knife officer fires several shots , the guy goes down and looses his knife stays down lees than a minute maybe 20 seconds then gets up and the cop asks his partner to taze him as soon as they guy hears this he charges the cop but with no weapon the cop doesn't shoot yellow shirt any more .
but yellow shirt gets him and starts wrestling him trying to get hold his gun , the cop hollers he has my gun he has my gun and other cops shoot yellow shirt ending it.

looks like a fairly clear case of suicide by cop every time the guy heard it might end with him alive he charged forcing their hand.


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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567206
07/03/19 11:23 AM
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Thanks for that description Greencounty. I completely missed that he dropped the knife there. I was confused about why he wouldn't get back on the trigger when he got back up.


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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567211
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If the guy hadn't dropped the knife the cop would probably be dead. I don't see how they could handled it any more professionally than they did.

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567213
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That should be shown at every trial involving and officer shooting a perp. Seeing thing like that helps in understanding the positions a cop can find himself in any day he leaves his house.
The second officer made a life saving shot under great stress.

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567216
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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567219
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He must've been on something... or like Green Co said, suicide by cop.

Adrenaline is one (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) of a drug

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567221
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What do you suppose they were hitting him with? 9mm, 40 S&W? Looked inadequate.

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: Posco] #6567227
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Originally Posted by Posco
What do you suppose they were hitting him with? 9mm, 40 S&W? Looked inadequate.

probably 9. Looked like the first guy was intentionally aiming low


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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567228
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All pistol rounds are about equal. If the assessment is that was inadequate performance, then all pistol rounds are about equally inadequate.


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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: Posco] #6567234
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Originally Posted by Posco
If the guy hadn't dropped the knife the cop would probably be dead. I don't see how they could handled it any more professionally than they did.

I agree 100%. Those officers, if anything were a little lite on force after he popped back up. They showed great restraint and proper threat assessment imo, kudos to them and glad they are ok.


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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by Posco
If the guy hadn't dropped the knife the cop would probably be dead. I don't see how they could handled it any more professionally than they did.

I agree 100%. Those officers, if anything were a little lite on force after he popped back up. They showed great restraint and proper threat assessment imo, kudos to them and glad they are ok.

X3

Also it was great seeing the paramedics right there waiting.
This whole situation could've been a lot worse

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567279
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Too bad they didn't have pepper spray or a taser on their belts with their guns. Shame to kill anyone, but with what they had to work with good job!

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567280
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Is there protocol for the officer to re holster his firearm after shooting the individual? I am wondering why he did not continue to shoot when the man got up and charged again? Was he likely in shock from initially engaging the individual and from training had holstered his firearm? I thank the Lord there are those willing to put their lives on the line for each of us daily and I pray God grants these officers protections in their daily duties.

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567299
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A good training video. In a nutshell: More offense, less defense. But that's the times we live in. Ya know....the media is more comfortable with a dead cop than a dead bad guy. In todays day and age, sometimes you can't save your job and your life, too.

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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6567340
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Is there protocol for the officer to re holster his firearm after shooting the individual? I am wondering why he did not continue to shoot when the man got up and charged again? Was he likely in shock from initially engaging the individual and from training had holstered his firearm? I thank the Lord there are those willing to put their lives on the line for each of us daily and I pray God grants these officers protections in their daily duties.


Could be a couple things. He might’ve thought the fight was over and was going to move forward to apply cuffs ( sounds strange, I know . But that’s policy in some departments. ) , maybe render first aid , etc.. Could simply be a training scar acquired at the range.


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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567391
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Its good to see a video of cops doing everything they can to avoid shooting somebody. I get tired of the other ones. Gets me all wound up. Im glad no cops were hurt.


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Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: wildflights] #6567398
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The restraint exhibited by the LEO's was exemplary, but their martial skills and incident command were sorely lacking. Those guys need more, and proper, training. We should not fault the individuals involved for their lack of skills, that is an issue for their supervision. They should be credited for doing everything they could to avoid killing a man intent on being killed.

Re: Officer involved shooting GA [Re: ~ADC~] #6567486
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Too bad they didn't have pepper spray or a taser on their belts with their guns. Shame to kill anyone, but with what they had to work with good job!


Watch the video again. His backup is holding a taser in his left hand and is about to light him up when the guy rushes the Officer for the second time.


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