Trash Pump Questions
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What I'm looking to do is suck water from a small creek to water some trees. A distance of 50 feet away and about 10 feet of rise to watering spot. I wouldn't use this pump much and would most likley be able to water in less then one hour. Can anyone educate me on trash pumps and what I need in my description of use. Here is one in Harbor freight below and can you tell me what is meant by the specs that it shows in Head Lift. How high can I push water up hill with this unit? So kind to get, how big to get and where would be the cheapest place to purchase one? https://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-79cc-Gasoline-Engine-Clear-Water-Pump-35-GPM-63404.html
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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07/08/19 03:29 PM
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I can't say how high it will pump, but 10' sounds very doable, but you shouldn't need a trash pump, those will pump solids up to whatever size the specs say, and that adds to the cost. A regular clear water pump is cheaper, put a screen on the intake to keep trash out, or suspend it in the water column. You will get a lower gpm the higher you try to push it. If you have electric close by, you can use a sump pump, then you don't have to mess with keeping a gas engine working with ethanol fuel.
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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No juice (electric) even close to this area. I don't want to buy a generator real bad either just another thing to set around. When out of power NO big deal for me, I can leave it or love it when I don't have power.
The water is very clear so no issues with debris and can put a float/weighed end on it. So I would be looking for just a gas powered water pump, right?
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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07/08/19 04:36 PM
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Most pump specs have a performance curve that show how many gpm it will pump at different lift distances. This pump doesn't show that. It says that it will pump uphill up to 65 feet (Maximum head lift: 65 ft.) but there is no way to know how many gallons it will pump to this height or any other height.
Intake head lift is 19 feet so it can draw water up to the pump if the pump is 19 feet above the water level.
Since it is a clear water pump, you will need to be careful that it doesn't suck mud, leaves, etc. into the pump. A trash pump would handle solids in the water.
And, if you can find a pump curve, know that the friction of water moving inside the hose and turbulence at bends in the hose use up a lot of the power in the pump lowering the output. The rule of thumb that I use is that I'm always going to get half or less output than the pump specs say I will. So, I oversize pumps.
If I'm using a lot of hose, I'll actually calculate (or at least estimate) the friction loss in the pipe.
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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07/08/19 04:45 PM
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That one should do the job for you rather well. For many year's when I owned a water well service company I made worse than this work for folks . Just remember that leaks aren't your friend with either a jet pump or in this case a trash pump a quality foot and check valve is also needed . You need to remember that this pump or even a jet pump will only lift water so high but it will push it further, with it only moving the water 50' or so if it were me I'd go with a larger diameter pipe because of friction loss, if that's not a problem or concern stick to the 1" but as I mentioned before I'd still install those other two valves also. Allan
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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Allan >>> Would you recommend a 2" trash pump instead? Also where would you install the checks? One right off from the pump? Allan >>>> this one might be better with more lift and HP. https://www.costway.com/7-hp-4-stro...Ogp2m4wIVDlYNCh2sgQdSEAkYBCABEgKuXfD_BwE
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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^ I have thought about that. I have not tried that here but actually have done that similar thing from a irrigation ditch before. The terrain is different in this application but mostly would work. The reason for a pump, that I'm thinking is I have a small field that is higher and I might be able to flood a little of that also. That is a great thought though. Thanks
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Re: Trash Pump Questions
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I can set the pump within 5' from the creek then about ~ 6' lift up to small opening meadow edge where I want to plant some trees. When I get back to ranch this week I will do some footage of lift to see what I actually have.
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