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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571906
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When did you guys last vote? No one votes without proper ID and authorization, my mother in law has been a poll worker for years and is incensed when she hears about illegal voting, it just doesn't happen.You're being played once again!


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Scioto] #6571917
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Originally Posted by Scioto
When did you guys last vote? No one votes without proper ID and authorization, my mother in law has been a poll worker for years and is incensed when she hears about illegal voting, it just doesn't happen.You're being played once again!

Apparently your MIL needs to get out more often lol. Illegals get DL's and SS cards all the time.


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Scioto] #6571926
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Originally Posted by Scioto
When did you guys last vote? No one votes without proper ID and authorization, my mother in law has been a poll worker for years and is incensed when she hears about illegal voting, it just doesn't happen.You're being played once again!



I have NEVER been asked for ID when voting. I could say I am anyone I choose and proceed with voting.

Here is an interactive database of actual criminal convictions for different types of voter fraud. Click on your state to see the actual violations.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

How about this gal ?

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article222302160.html


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571931
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Thedems need every vote they can buy, if you have a DL for an ID you can vote . Why do you think there are states giving out DLs to illegals?

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571936
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Back to Fisherman’s original post. I think that only American citizens should be able to vote and citizens should be taken care of first before one cent is spent to accommodate illegals. That being said, I feel we should welcome legal immigrants with open arms but without anymore benefits than American citizens.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: brianmall] #6571953
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Originally Posted by brianmall
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Only US citizens should be counted on census!


Disagree . Lots of people here legally who aren't citizens. Review Michael's , aka Scuba1, story.


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571967
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Voter ID would of worked well in the past but now they are handing out IDs to illegals, if you can't win it then rig it and steal it!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571970
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I don't think I have ever been able to vote without being asked for ID. And there is always at least one woman working the polls where I vote that has known me for years.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: gryhkl] #6571975
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
I don't think I have ever been able to vote without being asked for ID. And there is always at least one woman working the polls where I vote that has known me for years.



Same here the lady at the poll buys eggs from me and still get to see my ID and then checks me off of the registered voters list! Our electoral votes are no big deal most of the games get played in the bigger Cities where the numbers matter.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571976
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I've never been asked for an ID. When I go, they ask me my name, look it up in a big book full of names of registered voters, and cross my name off. I'm sure it'd be simple enough to go in and give someone else's name and vote more than once.

Then again, voter fraud isn't that common. Sure, it happens, and it's a disgrace to our system of elections, but it just doesn't happen enough to really effect anything. Conservatives scream about voter fraud the same way liberals scream about Russian interference. Sure, both happen, but not to the degree either side wants you to believe.

I would love for only property owners to be able to vote on bond issues and such. If your taxes aren't affected by the issue, then you shouldn't get to vote to raise my taxes.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: loosegoose] #6571986
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I've never been asked for an ID. When I go, they ask me my name, look it up in a big book full of names of registered voters, and cross my name off. I'm sure it'd be simple enough to go in and give someone else's name and vote more than once.

Then again, voter fraud isn't that common. Sure, it happens, and it's a disgrace to our system of elections, but it just doesn't happen enough to really effect anything. Conservatives scream about voter fraud the same way liberals scream about Russian interference. Sure, both happen, but not to the degree either side wants you to believe.

I would love for only property owners to be able to vote on bond issues and such. If your taxes aren't affected by the issue, then you shouldn't get to vote to raise my taxes.



How do you account for approximately 7 GOP seats flipping to Dem after the polls closed in CA during the midterms ? Do you think ballot harvesting by illegals might have something to do with that ?


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: white17] #6571991
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by loosegoose
I've never been asked for an ID. When I go, they ask me my name, look it up in a big book full of names of registered voters, and cross my name off. I'm sure it'd be simple enough to go in and give someone else's name and vote more than once.

Then again, voter fraud isn't that common. Sure, it happens, and it's a disgrace to our system of elections, but it just doesn't happen enough to really effect anything. Conservatives scream about voter fraud the same way liberals scream about Russian interference. Sure, both happen, but not to the degree either side wants you to believe.

I would love for only property owners to be able to vote on bond issues and such. If your taxes aren't affected by the issue, then you shouldn't get to vote to raise my taxes.



How do you account for approximately 7 GOP seats flipping to Dem after the polls closed in CA during the midterms ? Do you think ballot harvesting by illegals might have something to do with that ?


Do you have any evidence that voter fraud of any sort was responsible for that?

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6571995
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Seeing as I am not in charge of voting in CA ..of course not. But I can add 2 & 2. It's CA. The ballot harvesting was run by the Dreamers....illegal aliens.. Ballot harvesting had not been legal in CA prior to this. All seats were originally 'won' by GOP candidates but flipped to DNC over the next week or so. Why does CA have 112 percent of eligible adults registered to vote ?

It seems to me that most objective viewers would conclude that there was fraud or tampering involved. To think it was coincidental is naive. Even if it was random chance.....not ALL seats would have flipped in one direction.


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6572000
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So no evidence......Just like the left is convinced that Trump colluded with Russia.....The election didn't go their way, so their convinced something fishy happened, it couldn't possibly be that the election was won fair and square. Conservatives do the exact same thing.

The list from heritage.com that you linked only shows two convictions for Nebraska.

It shows more from California, the state being discussed, but not enough to flip one district, let alone seven.

If you're interested, voter fraud happens occasionally on the right, too. Here's an article about a woman who voted for Trump twice.

Article about voter fraud

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6572004
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Show me where a similar election result has gone the other way with that magnitude.

I never said that it doesn't happen on the other side. The fact that you can find one example of a Trump vote makes the point that fraud is historic and systemic on the left.


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Originally Posted by white17
Show me where a similar election result has gone the other way with that magnitude.

I never said that it doesn't happen on the other side. The fact that you can find one example of a Trump vote makes the point that fraud is historic and systemic on the left.



Show me evidence that voter fraud caused it to go that way.......

I'm not the one who needs to show any evidence. You're making a claim that voter fraud changed the outcome of not just one election, but seven elections. That's quite the claim, and if there's any validity to it, I'd love to see it. Anything.....a newspaper article, something of that nature?

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6572017
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Guess what. I don't have to prove anything either. I think most any rational person would have to conclude that those outcomes are far outside any normal statistical parameters. It is certainly 'unusual' enough to warrant questioning the legitimacy of those outcomes.

If you are interested you can look for the evidence one way or the other on your own time. There are plenty of pieces addressing it


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisherman] #6572019
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Good grief. Bigfoot is real, too, and I don't have to prove it. Any rational person would have to conclude that those footprints I found in the woods and the strange noises I heard couldn't be made by anything other than bigfoot.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Law Dog] #6572027
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by gryhkl
I don't think I have ever been able to vote without being asked for ID. And there is always at least one woman working the polls where I vote that has known me for years.



Same here the lady at the poll buys eggs from me and still get to see my ID and then checks me off of the registered voters list! Our electoral votes are no big deal most of the games get played in the bigger Cities where the numbers matter.


Our votes out here in the boonies don't matter much in national elections either. I killed an archery buck the night bill clinton was elected. I loaded the deer, rushed home, cleaned up quickly and rushed to the polling place. I was the second last person to vote there. I voted for Bush and when I got home a few minutes later clinton was already being declared the winner in PA.
Oh well, an old friend always tells me to. "Think globally but act locally".

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I think the "voter fraud" will be used by the losing side in any close election from here on out. We live in a day where anyone can claim "fake news" every time they don't like what they hear. Too many worry more about what they believe their group thinks instead of thinking for themselves. Willful ignorance is what has given us the division in this country and the parties use it to their advantage.

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