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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: gryhkl] #6572036
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
"Think globally but act locally".


By the same people who were spouting "diversity" and "tolerance" until it didn't suit them anymore.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572040
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Well, in Pennsylvania, pitt and philly pretty much determine the way the state goes nationally. We in rural areas only have much of an effect on the local elections. I believe the old guy's advice was good.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572049
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I live in New York State. I have voted in every election since I was old enough, however the state is dominated by New York city and Long Island to the point that the politicians don't even bother
to come here; they know the state will go democrat. MY VOTE COUNTS FOR NOTHING ! I truly do not have representation in Washington, they are only interested in promoting themselves.
If Pelosi ever stops short there will be a dreadful accident.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6572071
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by brianmall
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Only US citizens should be counted on census!


Disagree . Lots of people here legally who aren't citizens. Review Michael's , aka Scuba1, story.



So non citizens should be granted representation in Congress?

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572073
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States get representation in political power with electoral votes due to population. With the way our current system works:. If your counted on census? Then you gain representation for that state with electoral votes.

Fine

Count them. But they should not be allowed to alter our representation nor change electoral vote.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572108
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Nobody that gets a government check should vote. That includes Social Security, Military and other government employees, farmers that get subsidies, etc...

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572126
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The biggest way that the democrats steal American elections is through provisional and absentee ballots. The provisional ballots are frequently mixed with good ballots, even when they are not approved.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article221452655.html

People in most US States can cast a provisional ballot even after poll workers have found them ineligible to vote.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/asking-for-provisional-ballots/

The bigger problem is that the people judging the veracity of the provisional ballots frequently allow ballots with insufficient voter credentials to be counted, which is how illegal aliens, legal aliens without voting rights and felons vote democrat.

Absentee ballots are frequently obtained in the name of legal voters, such as the elderly, infirm or homeless, who are instructed to vote democrat and who in many cases never see their ballots, which are filled out illegally by a democrat.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...idents-of-long-term-care-facilities.aspx

There are many thousands of news articles on voter fraud by democrats in the US, many times more so then there articles about Republicans. Google and other leftist supporters bury the articles deep down the searches, but they are still there if you look.

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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572127
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CGilliam did you ever get a tax return? By your logic, you dont get to vote.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572169
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Only US citizens should have the right to vote. I have to show my ID every time I vote.

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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572249
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POTUS signed an EO to include the citizenship question. AG Barr states it is completely reasonable to know how many citizens and non-citizens there are in the US

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572274
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Just do away with elections. That way all bickering would stop and there would be no need for the party system. Just have all the women that was dressed in white at President Trumps State Of the Union Address mud wrestle and the one that comes out with the least mud on her will be our Queen Bee and we can all live in perfect harmony and live happily ever after.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572291
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Adam m, unless there was a different EO I'm not aware of, he decided against including the question on the census so it wouldn't be delayed any longer by the inevitable court challenges that would come from such action and instead used EO to direct all other agencies to provide the Commerce Department with any info regarding citizenship.

So it won't be on the census.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...citizens-through-the-commerce-department

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572292
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What if we leave it up to individual states or cities whether to allow legal resident aliens the right to vote in local elections?

If you say no, what about states' rights?

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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: adam m] #6572314
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Originally Posted by adam m
POTUS signed an EO to include the citizenship question. AG Barr states it is completely reasonable to know how many citizens and non-citizens there are in the US



Not exactly. There will not be a citizenship question of the census form. The executive order tells all federal government agencies to hand over all their info on who is and isn't a citizen.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572344
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Noncitizens voting is than more than one for one vote. It really has a multiple affect. A few illegal votes in the right places can overturn an election. The democrats know this that's why they want more illegals. That is why only US citizens should be allowed to vote.

I would never ever trust my 2ed amendment, fishing, hunting and trapping rights to people who don't care them.

Would you want the 2ed amendment overturned by noncitizens ?


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: James] #6572375
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Originally Posted by James
What if we leave it up to individual states or cities whether to allow legal resident aliens the right to vote in local elections?

If you say no, what about states' rights?

Jim



That might work if they entered the country legally. You wouldn't support illegals influencing our elections, would you?

Then there's the Supremacy Clause.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: tlguy] #6572432
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Originally Posted by tlguy
CGilliam did you ever get a tax return? By your logic, you dont get to vote.


Can’t believe no one picked the low hanging fruit .

Tax returns aren’t gifts , entitlements, or “bonus money “. It’s simply a return of an interest free loan YOU gave Uncle Sam.

Perhaps folks should have basic knowledge of our government before voting.


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Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Fisher Man] #6572440
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It's still a government check, no? I understand that it's your money the governments holds interest free and gives back what they dont have a valid claim for. What about Social Security? Should we not let anyone that's retired and collecting SS they've paid into for 40 years vote?

No government employees? Should that include city, county and state governments employees as well?

As long as we're implementing arbitrary voting restrictions, we shouldn't allow anyone living in a city with more than 250,000 people vote either.

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Thanks for the clarification. I must have misunderstood his EO while watching the speech.

Re: Voting in U.S. [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6572462
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by tlguy
CGilliam did you ever get a tax return? By your logic, you dont get to vote.


Can’t believe no one picked the low hanging fruit .

Tax returns aren’t gifts , entitlements, or “bonus money “. It’s simply a return of an interest free loan YOU gave Uncle Sam.

Perhaps folks should have basic knowledge of our government before voting.



Kinda like, if you buy groceries you are benefiting from farmers subsidies as much if not more than the farmer because the prices are lower?

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