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Green Bean Question #6575421
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Just wondering if anyone ever have let green bean dry out and use those seeds to replant the next year? It got me thinking about the Bigfoot thread on Orient Wonder. I do understand bean seed is cheap to buy, but my thought is hard to get product if you harvested some of the beans in the fall would they produce when planted?


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Re: Green Bean Question [Re: snowy] #6575422
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Maybe you could call Seedsavers Exchange 563 382-5990.

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Thats the way to keep heirloom seed that has been in the family for years. Its been done for ever. What you get into trouble on is hybrids. Hybrids are still new compared to the old seed as you know mules do not reproduce, sometimes hybrid seed will make a seed but not a sure bet.

Also when planting seed next to a different strain it will cross and you won't the get pure old seed you started with, I think thats right anyway?

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Re: Green Bean Question [Re: snowy] #6575430
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Originally Posted by snowy
Just wondering if anyone ever have let green bean dry out and use those seeds to replant the next year? It got me thinking about the Bigfoot thread on Orient Wonder. I do understand bean seed is cheap to buy, but my thought is hard to get product if you harvested some of the beans in the fall would they produce when planted?


I have saved some beans after they have dried out on the plant. I planted them the next spring and they grew fine and produced beans again.

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My mother would put bean or pea plants out to dry, under cover. then put them in a jute bag, and beat them with a stick to thresh them out. The trash could then be winnowed out on a breezy day . Used the dry beans over the winter, likely , saved some for seed. old243

Re: Green Bean Question [Re: old243] #6575440
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We have done it. Kentucky Wonder Pole Beans

Re: Green Bean Question [Re: snowy] #6575441
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i've saved and replanted beans too as well. the seam to be easier than some other plants


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Re: Green Bean Question [Re: snowy] #6575458
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I get my all of my heirloom seeds from Seed Savers in Decorah, IA, same place "run" mentioned. I grow the "Provider" bush bean which is their best seller. The seeds have always worked great and flavor is excellent. Make sure you harvest the seeds from the biggest healthiest pods and you'll never run out. I typically get around 55 seeds per 10 pods. That's just my 2 cents. Good luck !


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Re: Green Bean Question [Re: snowy] #6575463
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I do it all the time. Beans fortunately are pretty much self pollinating and are usually fully pollinated just prior to or at bloom opening. This avoids most cross pollination issues common with other vegetables like corn or squash.
While there are some F1 hybrids out there, usually commercial varieties, most are stable and breed true. The recommended isolation distance from other beans for the home gardener is only fifteen feet.
Saving seed in your own garden also has the advantage of selecting from healthy plants in your garden gives you selected seed adapted to the specific conditions at your location. However you do want to select three or more of your best plants to save from to preserve some diversity however slight that may be.

One thing you will need to watch for is off types. This may or may not indicate cross breeding. Rogue out, remove, the off types. Some stable varieties are known to throw off types. My favorite Louisiana Purple Pod Pole throws a green colored vine/pod type that resembles Kentucky Wonder, it's a recessive that shows up about one plant per 100' row.


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Another thing is seeds that have a patent on them such as Roundup Ready soybeans and you can't save the seed due to patent laws. At the end of 20 yrs then you can save seed but I think they are are trying to shut that off by some agreement with China that will only buy that strain(for lack of better word) for 5 extra years. Its hard to find soybean seed thats not RR. They have the farmer locked in to $60 a bag seed, their selling point was the cheap round up. Now that the weeds are resistant the farmer is having to use the herbicides we used to use which is costly and still having to buy their new strain of seed. I may start a thread on that very thing at a later date.

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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Another thing is seeds that have a patent on them such as Roundup Ready soybeans and you can't save the seed due to patent laws. At the end of 20 yrs then you can save seed but I think they are are trying to shut that off by some agreement with China that will only buy that strain(for lack of better word) for 5 extra years. Its hard to find soybean seed thats not RR. They have the farmer locked in to $60 a bag seed, their selling point was the cheap round up. Now that the weeds are resistant the farmer is having to use the herbicides we used to use which is costly and still having to buy their new strain of seed. I may start a thread on that very thing at a later date.


Actually you can save seed, graft, cultivate patented varieties for your own use. You can not sell or otherwise profit off someone else's patent. I can buy a patented apple tree, top graft it into my other trees, eat the apples, give away the apples, but not sell scion wood or grafted trees.
However, if I recall correctly RR seed is only sold under contract that adds a layer of restriction to existing patent law.


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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Another thing is seeds that have a patent on them such as Roundup Ready soybeans and you can't save the seed due to patent laws. At the end of 20 yrs then you can save seed but I think they are are trying to shut that off by some agreement with China that will only buy that strain(for lack of better word) for 5 extra years. Its hard to find soybean seed thats not RR. They have the farmer locked in to $60 a bag seed, their selling point was the cheap round up. Now that the weeds are resistant the farmer is having to use the herbicides we used to use which is costly and still having to buy their new strain of seed. I may start a thread on that very thing at a later date.

I am looking forward to your thread. I hope I don't miss it.


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Re: Green Bean Question [Re: run] #6575592
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Originally Posted by run
Maybe you could call Seedsavers Exchange 563 382-5990.

That is a cool site, thanks. I have some pole bean seeds that go back over a hundred years that are pretty cool. Snowy, we let some go to seed and then get them out of the pod. We lay them in the attic on news paper and when they dry up good, put them in a mason jar. Thinking about it makes me want some leather britches lol, yum!


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Thanks for all that information. I thought there should be no problem for them to grow, just wasn't sure in they would produce fruit. Thanks


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Re: Green Bean Question [Re: snowy] #6575795
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These Louisiana Purple Pods are Dad's, my seed source, from saved seed for I don't know how many years. I do know I was still in grade school when Dad switched over to these from rattlesnake bean. I wish he had some of those old rattlesnake seed because what's sold as rattlesnake these days ain't the same.


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Those Louisiana Purple Pods out produce any green bean out there and to me are the best tasting green beans.
Been eating them for 57 years, my grandparents always saved the seed.

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I keep my own seed , why buy it.

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Originally Posted by grisseldog
Those Louisiana Purple Pods out produce any green bean out there and to me are the best tasting green beans.
Been eating them for 57 years, my grandparents always saved the seed.


That's why dad switched. I remember that year he planted the usual two rows the same as he did the rattlesnakes. We were hauling them out by the bushel basket, we got at least double what the rattlesnakes would've done.


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I save all kinds of seeds, but stick with the heirlooms which will produce in your area. The national generic bean which produces in most locations is the Kentucky Wonder.

For those unfamiliar, Round Up beans are genetic alterations which have an algae gene put into them which was found growing on top of a Round Up cesspool. That is why Round Up works to an extent. Crops as corn and soybeans still burn from this salt when it is applied.

Different beans produce better than other beans in certain locations. Blue Lake does not produce here very well. Kentucky Wonder, Blauhilde, Yellow Wax do wonderfully here. You have to sometimes try a few varieties to find the one which produces. The best are pole beans that you can grow on cattle panels, as they are better flavored and produce quantity and quality. The best beans I have raised were in a clay soil, with warm September days, a great deal of rain, and cool nights.
Try for stringless as they are easier to process, but the string beans still have the better flavor. I still believe the chestnut colored bean of Kentucky Wonder is the best flavored bean there is.

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I've saved ours certain years, as long as the type isnt hybrid it produces fine.


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