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Distilling Legal or not? #6575770
07/17/19 06:49 PM
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Anyone know for sure? Is distilling small quantities for personal use legal or not? Everything I can find on the subject alludes to the fact that it's illegal in any amount. If you are going to say it's legal, please provide proof in a link that shows the statute. Thanks.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575776
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It is illegal is distill alcohol for consumption.

With a free permit you can distill alcohol as fuel though.

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6575780
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
It is illegal is distill alcohol for consumption.

With a free permit you can distill alcohol as fuel though.


Wouldn't it also be required to be denatured, additives to make it undrinkable?

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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
It is illegal is distill alcohol for consumption.

With a free permit you can distill alcohol as fuel though.


Wouldn't it also be required to be denatured, additives to make it undrinkable?


I do not believe so but I cannot confirm that.

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575821
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As I understand it, you are allowed to make so many gallons of liquor with a Fed permit, and probably State permit, for personal use or sale.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: BigBob] #6575824
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Originally Posted by BigBob
As I understand it, you are allowed to make so many gallons of liquor for personal use under Fed/ State laws.


That's not correct. You can only make a set amount of beer and wine for your own use (200 gallons a year if married and 100 gallons if single). Distilling spirits for consumption is against federal law. Those danged revenuers will getcha.



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Not without federal permits, state law may very.

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575831
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another law we need to change.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6575833
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by BigBob
As I understand it, you are allowed to make so many gallons of liquor for personal use under Fed/ State laws.


That's not correct. You can only make a set amount of beer and wine for your own use (200 gallons a year if married and 100 gallons if single). Distilling spirits for consumption is against federal law. Those danged revenuers will getcha.

Yep, they got Gpa once in 29, he got smarter lol. You got the equipment and the know how Finster, just make a still on the DL and you'll be fine. grin


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6575835
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by BigBob
As I understand it, you are allowed to make so many gallons of liquor for personal use under Fed/ State laws.


That's not correct. You can only make a set amount of beer and wine for your own use (200 gallons a year if married and 100 gallons if single). Distilling spirits for consumption is against federal law. Those danged revenuers will getcha.




Amount allowed varies by state for beer and wine. Distilling is illegal. You can, however, distill essential oils so owning the equipment isnít necessarily illegal. Iíd just make sure I could prove I was using it for essential oils.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575836
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Last time I checked the permit to distill alcohol (for drinking) was outrageously expensive... You would have to sell drugs to come up with the money to legally make whiskey.

Looks to me like it's a way for the big boys to monopolize the market... Ain't no way a small time or hobby/personal distiller could ever afford it.

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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575844
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DucksandDogs - "Amount allowed varies by state for beer and wine."

Yes, I was referring to the Federal limits. Here's a good article about it - https://culinarylore.com/food-law:how-much-beer-or-wine-can-i-make



Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575851
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Is jacking, which many people call freeze distillation, but what is really fractional freezing, legal?

It's a really easy way to bump up the alcohol content.

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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575856
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Yup, confirms what I have found out. It's a shame. I wanted a small one just for a bad batch of wine that went bad or old wine that has gone over the edge. It will still make fine brandy. A 5 gallon still would have suited my needs. Well, nothing to get into a twist over. I'm not looking for a vacation at club Fed for a fifth of homemade brandy.


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I say go for it, don't be a sissy lol. Use some of those onions in your pocket for taste.....


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575861
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I don't know how anyone would find out if you froze your old wine and poured the alcohol off. It might be legal, since it's not technically distillation.

They sell stills on Craigslist here all the time. I doubt any records are kept. wink

People also frequently convert waster distillation units by replacing the heating element with a lower wattage one, usually 360 Watts.

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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575863
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Just distill at night. Thats why they call it moonshine. Its only illegal if you get caught.

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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6575864
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Here's more info, including distilling alcohol for fuel. https://culinarylore.com/food-law:distilling-whiskey-brandy-legal

But Itís Still Legal to Distill Alcohol to Use as Fuel, Right?

Wrong! A lot of people seem to think this is true. They probably have read this in some article written by someone who wants them to buy a still. They say, sure, you can distill it as long as its not for consumption. Just use it in your lawnmower! Read carefully the laws I gave you above. Do you see any loopholes? Do you see anything that says itís EVER legal to operate an unregistered still? No, there is nothing in the law that says you can distill alcohol for fuel. You cannot legally operate an unregistered still, period.



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unfortunately congress is to busy passing new laws to start repealing old ones. Sure would be a breath of fresh air to hear a politician say we have to many laws. time to repeal 90% of them. If it stays a crime to steal murder and rape the rest will take care of itself.


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Originally Posted by Finster
Yup, confirms what I have found out. It's a shame. I wanted a small one just for a bad batch of wine that went bad or old wine that has gone over the edge. It will still make fine brandy. A 5 gallon still would have suited my needs. Well, nothing to get into a twist over. I'm not looking for a vacation at club Fed for a fifth of homemade brandy.

I have heard but not confirmed that Pa. was a sanctuary state for stills, unless you claim white privilege or have a Confederate flag on your dodge.

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