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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6576144
07/18/19 08:51 AM
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just hire an illegal to distil for you in a sanctuary city blush

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6576149
07/18/19 08:59 AM
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I'm not sure if its already been said but a law is only as good as its enforced.

Home brewing used to be illegal but people kept on keeping in and now its legal.

I'm sure we all know a few guys that speed and a few guys that distill.

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6576205
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by BigBob
As I understand it, you are allowed to make so many gallons of liquor for personal use under Fed/ State laws.


That's not correct. You can only make a set amount of beer and wine for your own use (200 gallons a year if married and 100 gallons if single). Distilling spirits for consumption is against federal law. Those danged revenuers will getcha.


Hey, at least they recognize the fact that more alcohol makes marriage tolerable!

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6576250
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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594071
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Missouri is the only state Iím aware of you can legally distill up to 100 gallons per household for your own consumption. I happen to live in Missouri and use that law to its extent. Then again it also is a federal offense, but number one rule is never sell, barter or add a value to the product and you should be fine, With that said some states you cant even own a still. If you were thinking about getting a still be careful buying one, most producers are required to keep records for the ATF.

Also bad wine makes worse brandy. Just going off experience

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6594118
08/13/19 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by BigBob
As I understand it, you are allowed to make so many gallons of liquor for personal use under Fed/ State laws.


That's not correct. You can only make a set amount of beer and wine for your own use (200 gallons a year if married and 100 gallons if single). Distilling spirits for consumption is against federal law. Those danged revenuers will getcha.

At least they realize that if your married,,you need to drink a lot more. laugh


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594166
08/13/19 09:48 PM
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These guys have hired a lobbyist, they were very close to legalizing it last year through their efforts. I have donated a few dollars to the effort. I think this is a route that could eventually make home distilling legal.

https://hobbydistillersassociation.org/legalization.html


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6594190
08/13/19 10:05 PM
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Paul, I am not sure but I do believe that distilling 'white lightning ' is legal up to a certain 'personal use' amount is legal. Same as beer & wine.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594199
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It is NOT legal in any state to distill spirits for consumption without federal permits and licenses, which are insanely high and very rigid. Lobbyists are working on this and making progress. Hopefully soon it will .

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: harleydparts] #6594211
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Originally Posted by harleydparts
Paul, I am not sure but I do believe that distilling 'white lightning ' is legal up to a certain 'personal use' amount is legal. Same as beer & wine.


Nope, not even for personal consumption and not in any amount.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594213
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Selling pot is illegal also, and that goes on in many states right on main street. Talk about a double standard.

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594220
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This is 4 yrs old. It tells some about licenses. I think it says for fed for fuel only you still need a license. The part that sticks out is the max fine if you was to not have your P's and Q's in order is $50,000.

I couldn't get any of the links within the page to work. Maybe there is a newer page somewhere?

My firefox wouldn't open the link a few post above, either.

Last edited by Foxpaw; 08/13/19 10:42 PM.
Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: harleydparts] #6594221
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Originally Posted by harleydparts
Paul, I am not sure but I do believe that distilling 'white lightning ' is legal up to a certain 'personal use' amount is legal. Same as beer & wine.


Read 26 U.S.C. 5601 & 5602

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5601



Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594242
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If you don't go advertising it on the internet and just do it, less chance anybody will be any the wiser. I really doubt anybody would care about the taxes they're missing from 5gal of home brew.

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: SleekOtter] #6594251
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Originally Posted by SleekOtter
If you don't go advertising it on the internet and just do it, less chance anybody will be any the wiser. I really doubt anybody would care about the taxes they're missing from 5gal of home brew.


Those days of nobody caring may be over. Old guy last week heard rain was coming and hooked onto trailer and thought maybe his lights weren't working on the trailer. Its only two miles to town to get a few sheets of tin and its a low trailer and in day time, what could happen? $360.00 is all that happened, of course that's Illinois and boy we need those fines!

Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594329
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Home made beer and wine is expensive. Be tough to sell it at a profit. Beer takes 3-4 weeks to be drinkable and wine several months.

"whiskey" made from white sugar, water and yeast is another story. Less than a week per batch and even if using 20 lb bottles of propane for a heat source its still cheap to make, and easy to sell. I believe that's why the feds are worried about loss of revenue. It has the potential to be significant


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6594446
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My understanding is itís legal to make beer wine and mead for personal use, but liquor in any amount is illegal


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Farmer Jake] #6595205
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Originally Posted by Farmer Jake
Missouri is the only state Iím aware of you can legally distill up to 100 gallons per household for your own consumption. I happen to live in Missouri and use that law to its extent. Then again it also is a federal offense, but number one rule is never sell, barter or add a value to the product and you should be fine, With that said some states you cant even own a still. If you were thinking about getting a still be careful buying one, most producers are required to keep records for the ATF.

Also bad wine makes worse brandy. Just going off experience




I would ask the mods to delete this. This is illegal and an admission of guilt. Distilling alcohol isnít legal anywhere in the country without the proper permits, which are prohibitively expensive.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6595582
08/15/19 09:47 PM
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Meh.... Missouri is well noted for defying federal authority. One of the reasons I am considering moving there. Their idea of the powers of government are much more in line with the constitution than most states.


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Re: Distilling Legal or not? [Re: Finster] #6595584
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There is no law against drinking fuel (federal or state)........just so you know.
Just keep it in a jerry can behind the bar. LOL


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