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Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6426562
01/12/19 04:42 PM
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Mr. Dobbins thank you for the posts from past lines/jobs. My daughters enjoy trapping pics with explanation and instruction. Very cool.

Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6575454
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What are you up to now? Mr.Paul Dobbins. Conventions?


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Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6575482
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Paul,

One of the links you posted to one of your ‘ride alongs’ mentions that NC imported WI beaver. You said that you can tell the difference because they still build the feed pile and the fur is better. I find this very interesting.

Why would NC (or any state) import beaver from anywhere?

About the fur quality…are you speaking of the fur color? Or the fur density? I would think that the color would stay but the under fur would never really develop enough to allow shearing due to NC’s climate??

Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: RdFx] #6575511
07/17/19 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RdFx
If you ever smelled castor from North Dakota bvr that only have cattails and a few scrub trees you will appreciate aspen bvr castor which smells sweet. The North Dakota castor smells like sewer. i couldnt believe it but kept it seperate. Dont know if i will ever use it, possibly.


Absolutly true! I trapped beav in Wy one spring out on the prairie. Absolutely the worst beaver I have ever caught, and didn't bother with the castor. Real yellow and actually stank, and the size of spring rat glands. Never did that again!


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Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: BvrRetriever] #6575513
07/17/19 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Paul,

One of the links you posted to one of your ‘ride alongs’ mentions that NC imported WI beaver. You said that you can tell the difference because they still build the feed pile and the fur is better. I find this very interesting.

Why would NC (or any state) import beaver from anywhere?

About the fur quality…are you speaking of the fur color? Or the fur density? I would think that the color would stay but the under fur would never really develop enough to allow shearing due to NC’s climate??


They got the WI beaver via PA through some sort of trade back in the 60's, from what I understand. The beaver population in NC at that time was nil.

The WI beaver here has thick long luxurious fur with dense underfur compared to the southern beavers that were imported. There's a huge difference in the quality. The WI beavers here still retain that better quality fur, even after being here 50 years. Some of the beavers I caught had a white spot anywhere from the size of a dime to the size of a dollar bill on their underside. I've heard from WI trappers who have caught beavers up there with similar markings.



Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: run] #6575516
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Originally Posted by run
What are you up to now? Mr.Paul Dobbins. Conventions?


Next week I'll start my final two weeks of beaver'n for the summer. I'm supposed to trap them from Oct 1 through Jun 30, but I had conventions the last two weeks in June. I'll make up those two weeks starting on Monday. Then I'll head to MI for their convention in Evart the weekend of Aug 16/17.



Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6575564
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So is poplar smelling castor #1 ......or the non poplar castor ?


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Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6575715
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Paul,

I’ve noticed the white spot on the belly but in my area it’s far from common. I’ve only caught two...the first one I tanned! I find it amazing that transplanted WI hold their fur quality despite the vastly different climate!

Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: BvrRetriever] #6575793
07/17/19 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Paul,

I’ve noticed the white spot on the belly but in my area it’s far from common. I’ve only caught two...the first one I tanned! I find it amazing that transplanted WI hold their fur quality despite the vastly different climate!


They don't all have that white spot, very few have it. I've probably caught 20 or so of them with the white patches out of the thousands I've caught down here.



Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6575816
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Paul also travels to a lot of out of state shows and we see him every year at our Michigan State Shows. Always good conversation.

Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6575819
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Paul,

One of the links you posted to one of your ‘ride alongs’ mentions that NC imported WI beaver. You said that you can tell the difference because they still build the feed pile and the fur is better. I find this very interesting.

Why would NC (or any state) import beaver from anywhere?

About the fur quality…are you speaking of the fur color? Or the fur density? I would think that the color would stay but the under fur would never really develop enough to allow shearing due to NC’s climate??


They got the WI beaver via PA through some sort of trade back in the 60's, from what I understand. The beaver population in NC at that time was nil.

The WI beaver here has thick long luxurious fur with dense underfur compared to the southern beavers that were imported. There's a huge difference in the quality. The WI beavers here still retain that better quality fur, even after being here 50 years. Some of the beavers I caught had a white spot anywhere from the size of a dime to the size of a dollar bill on their underside. I've heard from WI trappers who have caught beavers up there with similar markings.


Paul didn't you also surmise that the descendants of the Northern transplants still build lodges?

Some beaver build lodges here, a lot just den in the banks.

BTW it was finally good to meet you face to face in Springfield.

Mike


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Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6575822
07/17/19 07:47 PM
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They all build lodges here were the conditions are right. They can't make bank dens in the flat swamps we have, but in the canal ditches they do make bank dens.



Re: Boss Dobbins [Re: pcr2] #6576364
07/18/19 04:04 PM
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Most of our Oregon beaver don't build lodges, and most of the ones I catch on the lakes and big rivers don't build dams either.


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