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I apologize if this is considered political. I saw earlier today that Iran had detained (highjacked) a couple of British flagged oil tanker ships in the Straight of Hormuz.
Do the Brits have the stones to deal with this? If not, who does? It seems to me Iran has been pushed to the point of no return and they are desperate.
Obviously we cannot allow these folks to have nukes but where does it stop?
Zim

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I have a feeling a plan is in the works

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Let the freakin Brit's deal with it man. These European countries need to earn there keep, we shouldn't be the worlds po po. Wait patiently until it darkens our threshold and then pound them. The Brits are in turmoil like Germany and France. They bad mouth us but when the rubber meets the road they say, hey buddy can you help us out. Screw'em, we should stay out of it and put the proverbial proof in the pudding on those wankers!!!


Disclaimer: I am currently drunk, yet still confident that this makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Let the freakin Brit's deal with it man. These European countries need to earn there keep, we shouldn't be the worlds po po. Wait patiently until it darkens our threshold and then pound them. The Brits are in turmoil like Germany and France. They bad mouth us but when the rubber meets the road they say, hey buddy can you help us out. Screw'em, we should stay out of it and put the proverbial proof in the pudding on those wankers!!!


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I agree on all the above.
With Iran targeting US and British tankers lately, it's going to get ugly. If the US strikes you can bet the red coats and the UN will condemn the US

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I have a feeling a plan is in the works


Hope it is a good one.

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Iran likely already has Nukes,and likely realizes this is the best time to start a war after seeing the US turmoil,politically and racially.They likely feel if they can start a war with the USA that the USA will implode from within triggered by the economic strain of such a war.

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Iran would probably love for us to spank them so they can play the victims like Hamas does.

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I think we exchanged fire with them a few days ago? Shot a drone or something

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Originally Posted by Boco
Iran likely already has Nukes,and likely realizes this is the best time to start a war after seeing the US turmoil,politically and racially.They likely feel if they can start a war with the USA that the USA will implode from within triggered by the economic strain of such a war.

LOL, Trudeau must have you all up there censored like Kim Jong Un lol. Liberals lol.....


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Originally Posted by Boco
Iran likely already has Nukes,and likely realizes this is the best time to start a war after seeing the US turmoil,politically and racially.They likely feel if they can start a war with the USA that the USA will implode from within triggered by the economic strain of such a war.

Potus Trump won't cave to Iran pressure like Obama did
If any of these dems become potus the US will crash hard then Iran and ISIS will take advantage.

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Do not worry, the Canadian Navy will paddle there boat over their and give them what for.


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Originally Posted by Catch22
Let the freakin Brit's deal with it man. These European countries need to earn there keep, we shouldn't be the worlds po po. Wait patiently until it darkens our threshold and then pound them. The Brits are in turmoil like Germany and France. They bad mouth us but when the rubber meets the road they say, hey buddy can you help us out. Screw'em, we should stay out of it and put the proverbial proof in the pudding on those wankers!!!


This used to be my philosophy too. I have changed my mind in the last several years. I still don't like that we are the world's police force but...somebody is going to be in charge and if it's not us, it's going to be somebody else. The only somebody else's who are big enough to do it (if we step aside) are China or Russia. I don't like those choices.

And, as much as I hate fighting little wars all over the globe, it's made us really, really good at war. China's advantage is that it has 4x the number of military aged men to throw at a war. Fortunately, we're still better at it. We got that way by doing it a lot. War stinks. Not being ready because we're out of practice stinks too.

Still, it is hard to know what the best course of action is.

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Ain't none of our bidness.


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First thing Iran would do would be to block the Hormuz then the price of oil and gas would skyrocket.
Might be good for the price of fur if you believe the fur pundits.

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Originally Posted by Catch22
Let the freakin Brit's deal with it man. These European countries need to earn there keep, we shouldn't be the worlds po po. Wait patiently until it darkens our threshold and then pound them. The Brits are in turmoil like Germany and France. They bad mouth us but when the rubber meets the road they say, hey buddy can you help us out. Screw'em, we should stay out of it and put the proverbial proof in the pudding on those wankers!!!

The Brits should definitely take the lead on this, it's their ships after all. The U.S.A. however should not abandon their allies. We don't have to commit men or money but to help in intelligence would be no problem.
IMO the invasion from the south is of much greater concern for the true supporters of our Constitution and the Republic it governs.

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WE are really good at war, lol, true history since WW2 would convey that BS. We need to let the rest of them protect their interest and let it go till we have no choice. And another thing, we need to quit creepin. When darkness comes to our door we need to stop being sissy's and pound'em. Can you look at a Nam vet plus years in the eyes and not drop your head?


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Originally Posted by Zim
I apologize if this is considered political. I saw earlier today that Iran had detained (highjacked) a couple of British flagged oil tanker ships in the Straight of Hormuz.
Do the Brits have the stones to deal with this? If not, who does? It seems to me Iran has been pushed to the point of no return and they are desperate.
Obviously we cannot allow these folks to have nukes but where does it stop?
Zim



NO. The Brits don't have the stones to deal with this. They can't even deal with the enemy in their midst in parts of London.

IMO......Iran grabbed the UK flagged tanker to put pressure on the Brits to side WITH Iran against US sanctions. It is my bet that it will work.

The Iranians know what will happen if they grab a US flagged vessel.......they don't want that and neither do we.

I think Boco could easily be right about Iran already having a bomb. Consider that Iran is a much more literate and advanced society than the Norks.. We know the Norks have a bomb. Why would Iran be so far behind technologically ?

Remember that the Brits are a NATO ally..............wouldn't it be better to deal with Iran on Iranian soil than elsewhere in the world ? I don't want to see us in another war but in this case it is inevitable... it seems to me. Better now than later.


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Yes Zim we will stand with our allies as we have in all other wars from day 1.And you may not remember the last time you got in a bind in Iran who helped you out.
Although it would not surprise me,even though the brits seized an Iranian ship for violating American sanctions if the USA did not support her allies.(going by Trumps previous dealings with NATO)

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Originally Posted by Boco
First thing Iran would do would be to block the Hormuz then the price of oil and gas would skyrocket.
Might be good for the price of fur if you believe the fur pundits.
CTW...Coon Trappers for War.
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