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Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577369
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I respectfully disagree White.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577371
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About which part Catch ?? It doesn't have to be respectful laugh


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Re: Iran [Re: Chamacat] #6577384
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Britain said they are not looking at military options but are seeking a diplomatic way out. But international waters have to be respected. Another words lets see if the U S won't do something first.

Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577391
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Exactly !!


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Re: Iran [Re: white17] #6577394
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Originally Posted by white17
About which part Catch ?? It doesn't have to be respectful laugh

Lol, I know it doesn't, The respectfulness was directed to you man. I don't believe Iran even thought about the Brit's siding with them against US sanctions and thinking it will work. Even in the current climate the UK knows without us being the big bad brother they would be overrun. I don't think that Iran is reasoning about anything now, they are just hoping to stay afloat as it were. I do agree with you as far as it is inevitable that we clash, however we should put the hammer of Thor to them from the get go and not repeat past mistakes.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Iran [Re: rex123] #6577396
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Originally Posted by rex123
Britain said they are not looking at military options but are seeking a diplomatic way out. But international waters have to be respected. Another words lets see if the U S won't do something first.

Yup I was just reading that. It seems this capture comes after the Brits blocked 3 tankers last week.

Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577401
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Sink them bass boats they have and go from there next it will be the party barges!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Iran [Re: Catch22] #6577403
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by white17
About which part Catch ?? It doesn't have to be respectful laugh

Lol, I know it doesn't, The respectfulness was directed to you man. I don't believe Iran even thought about the Brit's siding with them against US sanctions and thinking it will work. Even in the current climate the UK knows without us being the big bad brother they would be overrun. I don't think that Iran is reasoning about anything now, they are just hoping to stay afloat as it were. I do agree with you as far as it is inevitable that we clash, however we should put the hammer of Thor to them from the get go and not repeat past mistakes.


You could be right but......... from my reading inside the financial markets....the thinking is that Iran does not want war but IS counting on Europeans to take sides against the US sanctions. And.......as it happens......that is what Europe is doing. Working with Iran, John Kerry et al to circumvent those sanctions

Agree about the Hammer of Thor...if we are going to do it.............do it right or not at all


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Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577415
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If the Europeans are doing what you believe then shame on them again for saying oh heck, come save us. I realize it's squirrly over there, but should we not let them with their Royal Navy to correct things. John Kerry does not represent America in the least, he's a tool and recognized as such by the lions share. I say stay the heck out of it until American citizens feel it, then pound'em.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577434
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I don't have a problem with your approach but what about our "ally" undermining us diplomatically ?? Maybe we should spank them too............AGAIN !


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Re: Iran [Re: white17] #6577437
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Originally Posted by white17
I don't have a problem with your approach but what about our "ally" undermining us diplomatically ?? Maybe we should spank them too............AGAIN !

I won't disagree with you there, a spanking is long overdue. It's time to show the world is is not? However I mean SPANK!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577439
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Ally has lost it's meaning today, need to reign that back in.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577454
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The worst enemy the US will soon face is the progressive socialists of Europe. Supporters of this one world government have already warped many Americans with their promises of welfare for all. Sooner, rather than later, we will have to stop them or lose our identity as a nation.

Keith

Re: Iran [Re: rex123] #6577457
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Originally Posted by rex123
Britain said they are not looking at military options but are seeking a diplomatic way out. But international waters have to be respected. Another words lets see if the U S won't do something first.


It helps; and is perhaps the reason Iran done it; is that Britain currently has an Iranian oil tanker in custody for possible sanction violations.

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The brits are too busy getting stabbed to death in London
Right now but we are the country with a problem

Re: Iran [Re: rex123] #6577495
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Originally Posted by rex123
Britain said they are not looking at military options but are seeking a diplomatic way out. But international waters have to be respected. Another words lets see if the U S won't do something first.



Yup

Trump won't let Iran use terror in international waters against allies in an effort to defeat our sanctions!

He won't let us loose like that. I'd bet Doesn't matter if ship has our flags or not. Its inevitable! You want something bad enough your gonna get it. Looks like those crazy tin cup dictators wanna die?

They are absolutely outta control!

I've seen reports that Trump polls more favourably in Europe than their elected officials. Because he is a nationalist that puts his country 1st. My point: I think he will also use this opportunity to pit down the Commie leaders Europe as well by showing them what real leadership is. Their is a movement to put down the Commie and islamic ideologies across western civilization. We have seen it with the election of trump and brexit twice.

There is more at stake here than just oil.

Re: Iran [Re: Catch22] #6577504
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Ally has lost it's meaning today, need to reign that back in.

UK is not an ally. They are just bidding their time.

Russia, China and Britian are the biggest dangers in the next 100 years.

US should throw principles out the window, buddy up to Iran and use them as a proxy to control the region. Iran has probably done less harm to America than those Saudis

Re: Iran [Re: Zim] #6577515
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I am not trying to hijact this post, but I have a question. How is it none of these tankers are able to defend themselves from being hijacked?

It seems to me a half dozen well armed men could easily protect a tanker from being hijacked.

Re: Iran [Re: beeman] #6577523
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Well, I have limited military experience but a half dozen guys against a couple - 3 gunboats and a helicopter likely would not turn out all that well.
Now, if they had a couple of those 30 mm gattling guns it would be a different story.

Zim

Re: Iran [Re: Boco] #6577526
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Originally Posted by Boco
First thing Iran would do would be to block the Hormuz then the price of oil and gas would skyrocket.
Might be good for the price of fur if you believe the fur pundits.


Maybe for an hour, before it was opened again.

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