This is the same crap the Muslims did to is during the barberry wars!

And if my memory serves me correctly? That war never ended! It was a war against islamic tyranny. So, give the Marines back their leather necks and turn them loose!

Iran says its seizure of British ship a ‘reciprocal’ move https://onenewsnow.com/ap/world/iran-says-its-seizure-of-british-ship-a-reciprocal-move

Iran's seizure of UK tanker in Gulf seen as escalation https://onenewsnow.com/ap/world/irans-seizure-of-uk-tanker-in-gulf-seen-as-escalation

Iran says it seized two oil tankers in Strait of Hormuz https://onenewsnow.com/ap/world/iran-says-it-seized-two-oil-tankers-in-strait-of-hormuz

The Saudi's and our oil companies have us doing their work for them in keeping Iranian oil out of the market. I think we will find a "reason" to start a war with Iran.
Will we never learn to mind our own business?

Another war over something that isn't our problem sounds like a great idea.

IF we go to war, make congress declare war. None of this "undeclared war" bullpoop. Make em go on record as either supporting it or not, so we know who to vote out.

Folks that scream "Death to America" and are developing nuclear weapons is not a problem?
I must be missing something here.

Zim

One way or another we will have to deal with Iran.

Iran will get the Russians to send support for them and that will tie our hands just like it did in Syria just put a few Russians here and there and not much we would do then!

Also, oil at 150-200 a barrel is not going to be a good thing for the global economy. That sounds like a problem for everyone

I doubt if the Brits will get into a costly confrontation that they cant afford.
They will give back Iran its oil and will get theirs back in return,thus de-escalating the tensions.
Then they will likely stay out of the Trump sanction policework and let Trump do it himself-The USA can police their own sanctions.
As far as hormuz,a few oil tankers scuttled in the main channel and some mines,and it would be closed for good.
No commercial ship would get insurance to travel there.And big oil companys wont take the risk.
Once that happens escalation involving the Saudis is inevitable.(Saudis also have Nukes as well as Pakistan)

With this calculus we should start a war with North Korea too. Instead we exchange love letters.

You may be right Keith. Saw in the headlines where the German Chancellor Merkel feels 'solidarity' with the Anti-Semite Omar. History repeating itself???

Went through this with Iran in 1987-88 on my last cruise on the USS Forrestall operation Earnest Will escorting Kuwaiti tankers. Our F 14's would shred their boston whalers with 20mm hei.
J

Merkel is as dumb as all the ragheads she is letting into her country. That's a ready made tinder box right there! And yes, history always repeats it's self!

I would like to see a War Tax paid by all Americans every time we go to war. If that is done politicians would be a lot more careful about deciding which conflicts they decide are of benefit to this country and her people.

North Korea, thanks to President Donald Trump, is now for the most part doing what we want them to. Iran is not. Anyone who watches, reads or listens to the news should know this.

Keith

I would guess most Americans already know that our taxes pay for our wars. Taxes are what provides most of the US budget.

Keith

With this calculus we should start a war with North Korea too. Instead we exchange love letters. [/quote]

No, in my honest opinion there is a chance to come to an agreement with North Korea.
They are just holding the world hostage with the little bit of might they have.
A country run by a bunch of deraigned Muslim fanatics is a whole different story.
Sit by and see what happens, you should be safe in Oklahoma.


Zim

Only if you watch Fox News

Our taxes don't come close to covering the US budget every year, we have a spending deficit. The deficit/debt used to be a big deal amongst conservatives and republicans, I hardly ever hear about it anymore. Wars add greatly to the deficit and debt, if everyone had to suffer financially the "do their part", it might make some hawks think twice about sending young men to die every time someone does something we don't like.