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Trapping New York #6579996
07/24/19 12:37 AM
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I’m a pa resident, I posted earlier this month about a trapping trip. Ideally I’d like to trap Maine, however, I looked into regulations and things in New York and found that they have marten, no bobcat limit (and a much longer season) and they have more relaxed laws regarding use of conibears on land.

I’d really love to trap a marten, has any one had success doing this in NY? What set ups did you use, I’m just looking for any info possible about trapping New York. I plan on attending the NY trappers convention to pick some brains about it from the locals, but if anyone can share, I’m all ears

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580026
07/24/19 05:41 AM
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high peaks in the dacks for marten need a permit limit of 5 per year was told not hard to trap have to find them

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580136
07/24/19 08:33 AM
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I also will be trapping NY this year for the first time, have land in the Ohio area. My town in NJ borders NY so I will give it a try. Laws in NY are way different than NJ so any info will help. Been going to the NY convention for years, it is one of the best... What area in NY will you be trapping?

Re: Trapping New York [Re: nyrat] #6580330
07/24/19 03:18 PM
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Thank you for the info.

I will probably be trapping in Adirondacks, or in Sullivan county NY because I have family with land there.

I would like to do the Adirondacks because of the marten

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580698
07/25/19 08:12 AM
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Welcome. Lots of opportunities here. Attending the convention--Aug 29-31-- is a good way to start. Good luck.

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580705
07/25/19 08:17 AM
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NY and PA seasons work good together for me especially with living within a mile of the border.









Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580745
07/25/19 09:22 AM
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The negative about New York is the non resident trapping fee. The NYS trappers convention is one of the best, you can get lots of good info there. Also, you can put in your application for the fisher/pine marten permit at the convention.Be sure to read the regs, NY has goofy regs involving carcasses, log books, etc. New York is far more liberal than Pennsylvania when it comes to using conibears; running poles, etc. I would venture that most of our fisher and marten are taken in them.
Pine marten are expanding their range, but they are not everywhere in the Adirondacks, only certain areas. Also our Adirondack Fisher/Marten season opens too early, but that's my opinion.
The Adirondacks offers lots of other stuff to trap: beaver, otter, mink, coyotes, etc. It's big country and beautiful. Do your research ahead of time.

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580784
07/25/19 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg57
Thank you for the info.

I will probably be trapping in Adirondacks, or in Sullivan county NY because I have family with land there.

I would like to do the Adirondacks because of the marten


Unless you can make time to do a lot of scouting right before and during the season, Marten are hard to come by. There are small pockets in the northeastern Adirondacks but they are few and far between. The harvest data for 2017-2018 shows a total of 50 for the entire state.

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580785
07/25/19 11:27 AM
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Fisherman is correct about the Fisher season in NY. being way to early. I've looked at lots of Fisher at the auctions in Canada and the lots of graded skins that are marked II's and III's are pretty well loaded with New York tags. It's almost impossible to find a quality Fisher skin taken in New York State, all because of the season being set to early. I had the opportunity to talk to a NYS conservation officer years ago about this and his answer was that the state sets the season to provide trapping opportunity, they're not concerned about fur quality. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that perspective.

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Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580797
07/25/19 12:10 PM
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The fisher season in New York Has been determined by arrogance on the part of one biologist. He has ignored DEC's own study in St.Lawrence County which proved that a later season had no detrimental affect on the population. In western New York there is a limited season in OCTOBER ! How dumb can you get? All DEC thinks about is "Trophy" and "Opportunity". They could care less that furbearers are a valuable renewable natural resource that should be harvested at their best. I would much rather deal with snow and ice than blue fisher.

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6580818
07/25/19 12:45 PM
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NYSDEC publishes listings of some furbearers like Marten and Fisher by number of animals taken in each township in each county. That would give a decent idea of where they are. Look a couple of years back. Higher catches seem to come every other year. This year should be a good one. I would suggest the West Canada Lakes, Long Lake, and Ampersand Mountain areas to look at. I prefer running poles for marten with smaller conibears like the 155's.
These areas can be very, very remote. Be sure of what you are getting into and good luck

Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6581111
07/25/19 09:21 PM
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I'm coming to the New York Convention this year & then heading into the Adirondacks to check out an area to run a marten & fisher line .

I was told catch on both this year would be down as theres a high mast crop upthere this year .

If I catch a couple of each , i'll be happy .

Hopefully the hand drawn map i was given at the Nta convention makes a difference in success.


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Re: Trapping New York [Re: Blitzkrieg57] #6581147
07/25/19 10:05 PM
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You guys have given me some great information. Definitely going to attend the convention and pick some brains. Thanks everyone

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