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Great Lakes Drownings #6586111
08/01/19 10:12 PM
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Been a terrible year so far for drownings on the Great Lakes. Even with the red flags flying and rip current warnings, people still feel the need to get in the water. The Great Lakes are beautiful but they need to be respected.
This year, as of July 28 there have been 51 drownings.

Lake Michigan - 27
Lake Erie - 11 plus 1 missing boater
Lake Ontario - 6
Lake Huron - 5
Lake Superior - 2

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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586113
08/01/19 10:16 PM
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Thanks for the heads up.


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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586188
08/02/19 12:48 AM
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All they had to do was swim a short ways parallel to the shore, then swim to shore. A rip tide is a narrow band of water which flows out like a rapid stretch of river.
I live near the Atlantic ocean. They don't put out red flags. The locals know what to do. The rest are just yankee tourists...

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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586209
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Here in our portion of Lake Erie, it is not rip tide or current but under tow. We have at least one drowning every year with people swimming off the breakwall in Barcelona, at the marina.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586218
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The waters of Lake Michigan (and all the lakes) is the highest it has been since 1986. Areas that "aren't deep" now are and I think that has caught people off guard.


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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586226
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those numbers are amazing to me.









Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586237
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How many of those weren't wearing a pfd?

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: Rat_Pack] #6586276
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Originally Posted by Rat_Pack
How many of those weren't wearing a pfd?


most if not all, if I had to guess.

we have several deaths every year in the rivers here - it still amazes me when the report says that they could not swim, and were not wearing PFDs.


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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586281
08/02/19 08:32 AM
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I have been out of New Buffalo, St. Joe, & Manistee ports this year and seen (mostly) kids doing some pretty stupid things on the flooded pier heads.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: Green Bay] #6586287
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Originally Posted by Green Bay
The waters of Lake Michigan (and all the lakes) is the highest it has been since 1986. Areas that "aren't deep" now are and I think that has caught people off guard.


Seems that it wasn’t all that long ago that they were talking about Michigan being so incredibly low and how it was effecting boating in and around the ports.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586293
08/02/19 08:49 AM
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My jaw dropped when I read your Numbers. That is very sad. Hopefully folks will start being more safe than sorry. Thanks for the info.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586344
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Those are indeed tragic numbers.

The great lakes and waterbodies, in general, are not given the respect they deserve. I'm betting hypothermia played a big role in those cases as well. Having been a sea kayak guide on Superior, I can tell you that the water temps are deceptively cold.

Even though all in my family can swim well, the rule is to wear a properly fitted, high-quality PFD...period. Not only does it keep you from becoming a victim, it makes you more able to assist those in crisis.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586358
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Ditto on teals assesment on PFD


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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: RdFx] #6586366
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Originally Posted by RdFx
Ditto on teals assesment on PFD

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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586378
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Sad cause a large percentage could have been prevented probably..
Lost a Great friend and buddy in 07 to a drowning... I sure wish he was around to chase coyotes again.
A PFD would have saved his life.. I always carry extras in the boat nowadays.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6586384
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I think a lot of people drown when they get caught in lost or discarded fishing line. They get entangled in the loops, start struggling, panic and drown.

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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: handitrapper] #6586514
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Originally Posted by handitrapper
Originally Posted by Green Bay
The waters of Lake Michigan (and all the lakes) is the highest it has been since 1986. Areas that "aren't deep" now are and I think that has caught people off guard.


Seems that it wasn’t all that long ago that they were talking about Michigan being so incredibly low and how it was effecting boating in and around the ports.



water is up over the piers that we had to climb out of the boat and up the wall 7 years ago I think about 7 feet higher than 7 years ago so you can imagine a beach now 3-4 feet more water than normal what was waist deep is now over your head.

the other issue is the waves on Michigan , for those of you who are familiar with Atlantic waves a 3 foot wave coming in the crests of the waves are far apart 25-30 yards apart you get some recovery time if you get smacked with one , on Michigan they are much closer together on a 3 foot wave you might have 25-30 feet between crests

if a wave is moving at around 3-4 mph that is 4-5 fps the difference is on the atlantic a wave feels like it hits you ever 20 seconds approximately it has been a few years since I was on the Atlantic but on Michigan you have a 3 foot wall of water hitting you every 5-6 seconds

water feet deeper than it was and waves that smack you and can carry a person off their feet ever 6 seconds , not a good place for a weak swimmer.

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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6587108
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My wife took our kids up to Ludington to see their grandpa last weekend. She told me that the beach was closed due to strong currents, I think. And she is now back up there again to pick up our son, who stayed all week to help out is Grandpa. I just talked to her and she said the 3 people have drowned in 8 days at the beach. Crazy stuff.

Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: Rat_Pack] #6587111
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Originally Posted by Rat_Pack
How many of those weren't wearing a pfd?

I think many of the deaths were swimmers, so no pfd. Lake Superior had
only 2 deaths because it really never gets warm enough to swim in comfortably.

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Re: Great Lakes Drownings [Re: K-zoo] #6587118
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We've had several on our coast too.
1 guy was body slammed by a wave and it broke his neck...RIP.


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