Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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Alright had a question on which way is better to strech a beaver on one of them metal hoops or on a sheet of plywood?
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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can anyone post pictures of beaver on hoop. i would like to see how they work.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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started using boards an a staple gun this year for the first time. really like this way better than the hoops.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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I have seen demos by one of the canadian auction outfits where they used staples and an electric staple gun to staple the hide on the boards, then used a scotch fur comb to pull the staples out. they could pull them all out in a matter of seconds. All I can say is try it, see if you like it.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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Boards all the way. I can do two beaver on one board. It would be tough to do that on a hoop. So I tink I can store 20 boards eaiser then storing 40 hoops. And hoops cost about $90.00 a doz and If they have to be shipped It's going to be alot more. I'm not sure about drying time I can dry a beaver In 3 days on a board, never tried a hoop. It's very important to get all the size you can and that Is better done on a board. And as you can see if you use hoops you will have to either place small boards over the leg holes to close them or sew them closed. 9/16" staples and a fur comb will get the job done In a hurry. All the proffesional fur handlers around here use wood there must be a reason.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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Prune, your beavers look great.The only thing I can see is to put your hog rings a little closer.
Beav.The hoops are expandable. After the beaver are on the hoop and some what tight you can take a wood clamp to finish the stretch.Drying time in my shop is 3 days also and putting the boards in for the leg holes only takes minutes.I use wire hoops for all my beaver and they look as good as wood.I'm sure it depends on the person putting them up though.
Skullman, the smaller beaver on hoops will tend to be round but the larger sizes will naturally stretch oval.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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I found a deal on 3/4 inch birch vener 2nd's. It was cheaper than regular plywood. You get 3 boards out of one sheet. North Bay, did you make it to the convention?
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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"If mountain men had plywood, they woulda used it!" A quote from my mentor, one of the greatest beaver trappers ever. He started out nearly 70 years ago, on wooden hoops, and would never even consider not using plywood anymore. I like 6d box nails, these are strong enough that once pinned, the hide can be lifted away from the board, to allow air to flow over both sides of a hide. I clean skin. I (clean up) scrape on the plywood, before I lift the hide, and I sew the leg holes after. Krusty
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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And as you can see if you use hoops you will have to either place small boards over the leg holes to close them or sew them closed. I can close a leg hole on a hooped beaver faster than one could dream of doing so with nails....and it doesn't involve blocks of wood, or sewing needles.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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If you all wanna see some DANG good looking beaver on hoops, as KRE to post his pics. He does a DANG fine job.
Personally, I am QUITE happy with the speed, ease, and grades I get on my hooped beaver.
All too often, I think we make some poor generalizations about what is best....including stretchers, knives, traps, even types of sets and set locations. A fictional example being...if you CARE about your fur...you'll do it this way. Or the "best of the best" do it this way. There's a lot of factors in a descision to go with hoops or boards, or wire stretchers or wood boards. What's best for one guy, might not be best for the next guy. It's a personal descision, and if you're GOOD at the way you already know how....no reason to start over.
When folks say that "all the best guys use this type of stretcher"....they are WRONG. Fox go on what? Ask here, and most everyone will tell you wood boards. Then ask which of them caught more fox than Phil Brown? When he posted pics of his catch....1002 red fox if I recall....the ones I saw were one WIRE stretchers. Same deal...I've got a pretty good idea how many beaver Prune puts up....and I'll bet there's VERY few here that put up 1/4 of what he does in a year.
It's a personal choice. I use some wood, and I use some wire. So long as I am happy with the results....who cares? We all have different priorites.
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Re: Beavers: Hoops vs Plywood?
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[quote=skullman]I prefer plywood. Hay Prune, when you use those hoops are your beaver round or oval?
Thye are modified hoops.After a little tweaking and squeeezing they take on and hold there semi-oval shape.The main reason for hoops for me is.Space,weight,and a little quicker drying time.when you are trying to get thru 80-100 a week hoops to me a easier.All i do is scrape and toss the pelt to my son who can hoop them faster than i can scrape them.
As far as price for hooped too boarded beaver it seems to be only a couple of bucks.Time is worth more than that to me.
It works for me.Other's have there way.More ways to skin a cat.Is there an easy way.Anything to do with beaver is work no matter how ya cut it
As far as using more hooks,yep i get after him a time or too.But on a friday night and being 21 he has other things on his mind :).I would be the same way.Most of the time he has to have everything just right...
I wanna be like Swampbooger :-)
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