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ad hominem #6589121
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A couple days ago on this site I accused a couple members of ad hominem attacks. There seemed to be some confusion on what an ad hominem is so I included this screen shot of its definition from Google. During an argument a ad hominem is basically an attack on the person instead of their ideas/beliefs. An example of an ad hominem is as follows

"I think we should reconsider the extended season on Otters"

Ad hominem response- "well your just a lefty liberal"

Now ill be the first to admit I have a 10th grade education and am average intelligence, I am not bringing this up to try and sound smart I just want us all to be better debaters so we can provide logical and sound arguments for wildlife management. "Metal sharpens metal" even when we disagree we should be trying to refine each others way we approach a argument in hopes we can provide a better united front against those who would remove arms and end effective use of natural resources.

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Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589128
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so if i called you a troll,would that be one? grin









Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589130
08/06/19 10:57 AM
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Sounds like a strawman attack. Can't find any posts of you using that phrase.

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589132
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him and Lug,i saw it.









Re: ad hominem [Re: pcr2] #6589133
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Originally Posted by pcr2
so if i called you a troll,would that be one? grin


grin


Eh...wot?

Re: ad hominem [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6589136
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Originally Posted by pcr2
so if i called you a troll,would that be one? grin


Possibly smile

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Sounds like a strawman attack. Can't find any posts of you using that phrase.


Post got whacked, not sure why, I didnt keep up with it before it was deleted.

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589145
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Quick point of privilege, quick point of personal privilege please. grin


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589148
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grin


Eh...wot?

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589151
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pig castrater









Re: ad hominem [Re: pcr2] #6589163
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Originally Posted by pcr2
pig castrater


Nope.

I believe It's pig castrator. laugh

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Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589279
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Ad pig castratinem.


Eh...wot?

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589286
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That's ad hamimen laugh

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589327
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I am not bringing this up to try and sound smart I just want us all to be better debaters


you, Sir...ARE the Master Debater!

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589328
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Re: ad hominem [Re: white marlin] #6589347
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I am not bringing this up to try and sound smart I just want us all to be better debaters


you, Sir...ARE the Master Debater!


I think he got his Masters degree in Bate...nevermind...


Eh...wot?

Re: ad hominem [Re: walleyed] #6589355
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by pcr2
pig castrater


Nope.

I believe It's pig castrator. laugh

w

potato, patato!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589363
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Showing of your fancy Spanish words again eh? wink


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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
A couple days ago on this site I accused a couple members of ad hominem attacks. There seemed to be some confusion on what an ad hominem is so I included this screen shot of its definition from Google. During an argument a ad hominem is basically an attack on the person instead of their ideas/beliefs. An example of an ad hominem is as follows

"I think we should reconsider the extended season on Otters"

Ad hominem response- "well your just a lefty liberal"

Now ill be the first to admit I have a 10th grade education and am average intelligence, I am not bringing this up to try and sound smart I just want us all to be better debaters so we can provide logical and sound arguments for wildlife management. "Metal sharpens metal" even when we disagree we should be trying to refine each others way we approach a argument in hopes we can provide a better united front against those who would remove arms and end effective use of natural resources.

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Such responses are used very often on most sites. It's an easy come back when one has no good response to another poster.

Re: ad hominem [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6589412
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Re: ad hominem [Re: Diggerman] #6589416
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Originally Posted by walleyed


Nope.

I believe It's pig castrator. laugh

w

potato, patato!!!!!!!!!!!


Tomato, Tamato !!!!!!!!!!!!

Grando, Grenato !!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's call the whole thing off !!!!!!!!!!!!! laugh

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