Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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Trump if he is a leader needs to do something and gun control is not it.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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Three mass shootings in one week? I don't think any media is misrepresenting anything here. Ignoring or denying the huge problem wont make it go away. And yes it is not the gun,it is another deeper problem in your society. Don’t agree with the media part, but the problem is best described as an inverse relationship to the atomic bomb. We drop it, and since that day world wide War and genocide has been decreased by 10 fold. Take God, The Ten Commandments, Dads, and Families our of the picture and 10 fold is what you get.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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Ol' Mitch says the Senate is going to discuss gun control in September. He says he doesn't want to recall senators now because that will just cause partisan fighting, and he wants to actually get something done. He says the one thing the Senate can't do is fail to pass something. Better start stocking up I guess. articleThe time to start stocking up was 3 to 4 years ago. Prices have been at record lows and inventory falling off the shelf. A complete AR15 could be had for around $300 and 9mm ammo at $.17 a round. Anyone who saw the gun/ammo panic of 2012/2013 should already be "stocked up ". Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice......
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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Wade I don't know the answer.I just believe if he has good leadership skills he will come out a winner at the next election. If he goes the gun control route he will alienate his base and lose the next election. If he does nothing,there will be the fence sitters and likely some of his current supporters that will abandon him and he will lose the next election. He has to come up with some kind of solution that will encourage his base and also be enough for the fence sitters and weaker supporters to have faith in his leadership. I see it as a crucial test of his leadership skills.I pay no attention to the lefties who are against everything he does,and he should not worry about them either.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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You'll get your answer when dawn comes to the eastern time zone.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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I used to hunt ducks. I was limited to three shots in my magazine. I was stationed in West Germany on a missile site. My M-16 clip was limited to 20 rounds. Why does anyone need a 30 round capacity clip in an assault rifle? And why does anyone need an assault rifle unless they want to kill people? There are better rifles for less money.
Not to be rude, and I hope your just trolling, but so much ignorance in your post. My M16A2 fired from a magazine, not sure how yours fired from a "clip". An assault rifle has full auto capabilities and is restricted in the US except for Class 3 license holders , and the weapons themselves cost $15,000 to $40,000 in todays market. Military style weapons are semi auto and are used for hunting, target shooting, collecting, and home defense. It's not about "need", it's about my constitutional right to own a firearm. If not 30 rounds , 20 ? 10 ? 5 ? who decides ? I'm sure the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust or the 20 million Russians and Ukrainians killed in the 1920's and 30's would be good examples of someone who "need an assault rifle". You don't "need" a car to get to work, you can ride a bike, much safer for other people, right ? "Better" how ? Guns are like tools each has it's own purpose , right tool for the right job.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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You'll get your answer when dawn comes to the eastern time zone. Love this reply !
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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Well we have seen this kind of mass hysteria before. People get all wound up by news stories and start screaming for the government to save them. What happens is less liberty. No one is any safer than before they agreed to become less a citizen and more a subject.
Fear resulting from the Valentines day massacre gave the NFA. Fear of the Black Panthers gave us the gun control act of 68.
Clintons semi ban came after a school got shot up
I expect a national registry. Semis will become a class 3 firearm. IF we go along with it there will follow a national registry of ALL firearms and a licensing program including tax/fees to pay for it all. NRA is going to tell you its for your own good. Time to appease the left so they will allow you to keep your grandads shotgun.
Not only is fear being fostered in the unarmed nervous urbanites its being fostered in gun owners. We are about to be told again, that this new bill does not violate your right to be armed. That instead it protects your right to own them. That this slight inconvenience will make people safer and allow you to keep your guns.
You will be told to go along or lose your guns to government confiscation.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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Danny if my R-Senators go along with it, they'll lose my vote and I've let them know that. Hopefully gun owners in other states will do the same. The fear of being relieved of their power/notoriety is a powerful motivator. They lose their base and unemployment is sure to follow.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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They gotta do something.The staus quo is unacceptable.Ordinary people so scared shirtless of being gunned down that they stampede at the sound of a sign falling or a car backfiring. I'm not scared "shirtless" and neither is anybody else in my family, my friends, and the circle of people that I work with on a regular basis. I'll admit that I'm tired of the hyped-up hyperbole that seems to be constant from some so-called "news" outlets on cable TV.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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I used to hunt ducks. I was limited to three shots in my magazine. I was stationed in West Germany on a missile site. My M-16 clip was limited to 20 rounds. Why does anyone need a 30 round capacity clip in an assault rifle? And why does anyone need an assault rifle unless they want to kill people? There are better rifles for less money.
Do you really believe the Dems would stop with eliminating just those?!!!
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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whether you like it or not sometimes people need killing. There are multiple stories every day of children being kidnapped, women being raped, home invasions, car jackings, muggings, murder and assault. Do you REALLY want the government to tell what you are allowed to arm yourself with? You could always move to a safer country, like Mexico. Great Britain has very strict firearm laws. Even knife and screwdriver laws. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46984559
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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I used to hunt ducks. I was limited to three shots in my magazine. I was stationed in West Germany on a missile site. My M-16 clip was limited to 20 rounds. Why does anyone need a 30 round capacity clip in an assault rifle? And why does anyone need an assault rifle unless they want to kill people? There are better rifles for less money.
Do you really believe the Dems would stop with eliminating just those?!!! Yeah, and this is from one of our own here on tman. When our own people start buying into the lie, I wonder how we can succeed. Usually when I look where these people live....it is a blue state, why is that? They have bought into the BS because they are closer to the hysterics. Get a clue folks, or the second will be gone before you know it.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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I agree with Boco. The problem is not with guns, but within "society" itself. If the intent is there and guns are unavailable there are many other methods. Look at the Kansas City bombing or driving a truck into a crowd. We need Bipartisan thinking from our best minds, not politics. We don't need anti gunners like Schummer or the NRA at the opposite end screaming at each other. I am an avid gun owner, but I no longer belong to the NRA. Their extreme thinking is not for me. By the same token politicans trying to get elected by being anti gun turns me off as well. Trump did not cause those shootings and it is not his alone to solve the problem. I see no need for ownership of those big military type weapons, but I'm against any type of confiscation.. I don't have all of the answers. Who is to say that I'm incompetent, crazy, or shouldn't own a gun? At least one of those guns was purchased legally.The problem is not the guns, the problem is people.
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Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
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BBC 24 January 2019
Violent crime recorded by police in England and Wales has risen by 19% in a year, latest Home Office figures show. In case you missed it. It is illegal in Britain to carry a screwdriver without a permit. Is this what we want? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46984559
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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