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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6591225
08/09/19 10:13 AM
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I remember Silver Thursday quiet well, lol.

Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6591239
08/09/19 10:42 AM
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Silver and gold are not investments and the only people that make money with them are the dealers selling it. I've been hording silver since it was in circulation in the 1960's. When it make a bump up I sell some, but I buy very little. Now I just buy dividend paying stocks. For you silver guys look at this chart and tell me how anyone can make money with silver. Buying low and selling high is not easy to do.


Range Change Change %

Today +0.14 +0.84%
7 Days +0.72 +4.42%
30 Days +1.68 +11.00%
6 Months +1.18 +7.48%
1 Year +1.49 +9.63%
5 Years -3.09 -15.45%
10 years +2.62 +18.34%

Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6591275
08/09/19 11:56 AM
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The worst thing a guy that doesn't know how the market works and takes a position and by chance makes a quick profit, then he is hooked. If he doesn't know how he did it or even if he does then the psychological part of gambling, especially for a person who has always worked for money, kicks in and all the problems with gambling can come to play.

Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6591279
08/09/19 12:10 PM
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I don't look at silver coins or bullion as an investment tool, but rather, a safer means of saving then currency in a back savings account. ( A means of barter, should the economy fail. Not to buy and sell as one would do in the stock market. )

Re: gold and silver [Re: Jays] #6591294
08/09/19 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jays
I don't look at silver coins or bullion as an investment tool, but rather, a safer means of saving then currency in a back savings account. ( A means of barter, should the economy fail. Not to buy and sell as one would do in the stock market. )


Yes, I have the same thought pattern. There will be many that will say a melt down won't happen or if it does things will be so bad your planning won't help. To expand your way of thinking, I can remember when we had an ice storm and was out of electricity for 4 days. Town was down for a couple days. Cash registers don't work with out electric nor does gas pumps. If you have a generator it won't work without gas nor will your truck. Here we live on the New Madrid fault so you see we could have a few days of a lot of inconvenience if not prepared a least to a degree. Not even considering terrorist acts. Even a snow storm ain't fun when you have food and no toilet paper, lol. A guy needs to be self functional for at least a few days, unless you think the gov will save you. That might include cash, food, water, gas, antibiotics any other personal medicines, and etc. And if you are in the country the gov services will center on the city masses first. Hospitals, post office, court house, etc. all come first.

Re: gold and silver [Re: Gary Benson] #6654689
11/01/19 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I can see the sense of owning silver but owning gold just doesn't make sense to me. I'd bet there's been times a person would trade a pickup load of gold for a pickup load of firewood.

That might be, however I'll bet if such a time ever arrived you would have a much better chance trading a pickup full of gold for a pickup full of firewood than you would have trading a pickup load of cash for a pickup load of firewood.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654703
11/01/19 09:26 AM
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PRE- 1964 SILVER COINS is always good to have


50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654712
11/01/19 09:39 AM
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I remember seeing a news cast in some country where the inflation was so bad they were burning their paper money to stay warm. Also I saw a news cast in a Russian war torn city, where it was freezing cold and snow. Some old man with all the clothes on he could find had a little hatchet and was chopping wood chips out of the ground from a tree that was long gone. News caster said he was trying to get enough chips to boil water for some tea.

Those images have stuck in my mind for years and I hope nothing like that ever happens here. But if it was to I'm afraid an awfully lot of complainers and protesters won't make it.

Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654732
11/01/19 10:21 AM
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Precious metals are a terrible investment if you’re looking to see returns. That said, I buy some silver boullion sometimes. I just like having it to be honest. I tell my kids it’s my “pirate money” lol


"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654741
11/01/19 10:38 AM
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I've hung on to almost all the silver and gold I've found with my metal detector. I've only every sold a few coins and then it was like selling fur. Not sure you get what it's really worth just what someone paid you??
I've thought about sending all the gold and silver to someone to have a gold button or bar made. But then the whole trust thing kicks in and I can't get myself to do it. I know the gold jewelry is all different 10k 14k 18k. Same with silver lot is stamped 925 but I have no idea what to expect back from a refiner?? Market goes bad who sets the value of the Silver coins I've saved?
I just hang on to things I probably should have sold years ago because I'm uneducated on it all.
I do love reading these posts and learning though.
Guess my kids will have to figure it out one day?

Mac


"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"

Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654744
11/01/19 10:41 AM
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I like reading these kind of threads too.


wanna be goat farmer.
Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654752
11/01/19 11:02 AM
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Check the price of scrap lately? I have enough brake rotors to run a full time coon line.
Not sure which plan is worse lol.





Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654759
11/01/19 11:10 AM
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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654775
11/01/19 11:36 AM
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I save stuff. I don't plan on making anything off of it. It will all go to my daughter, and she'll make a mint. She has nothing invested.


Lifetime Member of the NTA, FTA, Kansas Furharvesters,and the Arizona Trappers Association.





Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654820
11/01/19 01:01 PM
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Gold and silver are all manipulated down by the banker's through paper gold and derivatives to protect the dollar. You probably will not see much of a rise in price unless there is a crisis. Witch could happen.

I will add there is more above ground gold than there is silver. Up is down and down is up these days. No real price discovery taking place in anything.

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You only live once, so get over it!

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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654831
11/01/19 01:34 PM
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I always keep old silver coins as I get them

The best investment to me has always been ammunition and guns

I can’t eat silver and gold and I can’t kill anything with it


You always see the commercials about buying silver and gold in case the economy collapses but they are taking cash for it in return so how good is it really


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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654867
11/01/19 03:29 PM
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All of the gold ever mined wouldn't even fill up the base of the Statue of Liberty. All of the jewelry you see now has been recycled at some point, same with recycling computer mother boards. A little gold goes a long way as it is extremely ductile. Paper money is only worth what the government says it's worth. It is backed by nothing. If things ever went sideways you have tangible assets in gold and silver, and monopoly money in paper.


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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654878
11/01/19 04:00 PM
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My thinking is if things go south what is silver and gold actually worth

I know it would be worthless to me


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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654883
11/01/19 04:10 PM
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Gold and silver are only worth what we say they are too. Remember that salt used to be the medium of exchange.

Nothing has intrinsic value. Only utilitarian value that we ascribe to it


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Re: gold and silver [Re: pcr2] #6654889
11/01/19 04:19 PM
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I have a bunch of troy ounce silver coins from shooting trophies for trap shooting, silver was a little over $5 a ounce back then. I would shake my head, shoot all day pay for shells and targets and IF you win you get a $5 coin. LOL


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