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In three weeks Dayton will just be a city Ohio and El Paso will be the home of of a crazy politician running for president. Such is our attention span and media circus.
Lets see the data on killings in other country's. Make a thread on it, this thread is just beating a head horse, just like the media and the mass shootings. Let the media show the person that did the shooting once he has been shot laying on the ground, crying, ask for his mom the jerking all over the place and wetting themselves before he dies. The next person may think twice before shooting others. JMO most likely this will be deleted.
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591231 08/09/1910:24 AM08/09/1910:24 AM
Boco keeps reminding us that these mass shootings are a huge problem, and something must be done to prevent this presumed epidemic plaguing our society. But it's just not true. Here's a pie chart from the University of California, Davis showing the percentage of firearm-related deaths in the US in 2017. That was a particularly bad year for mass shootings because of the Las Vegas shooting, the largest in US history @ 58 deaths, and the Sutherland Springs, TX shooting @ 26 deaths.
Mass shootings represented the lowest category of all gun deaths at a mere 0.3% in 2017. Unintentional deaths, which are mostly accidental, are 4 times higher than public mass shootings. You want to curb the "huge problem" of gun deaths in the US? Start with taking action on suicides and homicides, and then move to gun safety. This is media-created hysteria at its finest. It's what they do best, and we all fall in line like Pavlov's dogs with our conditioned response to their bell ringing.
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"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
Lets see the data on killings in other country's. Make a thread on it, this thread is just beating a head horse, just like the media and the mass shootings. Let the media show the person that did the shooting once he has been shot laying on the ground, crying, ask for his mom the jerking all over the place and wetting themselves before he dies. The next person may think twice before shooting others. JMO most likely this will be deleted.
World average is 6.2 murders per capital. US is 5.3
I think I am starting to see the problem. It seems like a lot of you cannot comprehend the difference between mass shootings of innocent people going about their daily business from all other gun related deaths.3 mass shootings of innocent people,one apparently race based is horrific. This is why mass shootings of innocent people is not rooted in the gun.It is a problem in society.
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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591260 08/09/1911:13 AM08/09/1911:13 AM
I think the problem is there are too many people crammed into the cities and they're going nuts. Let's ship 100 million people from the major cities up to Canada so they can spread out and relax a little. How are your immigration laws, Boco? Won't be long before people start leaving the US for Canada seeking asylum.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591266 08/09/1911:28 AM08/09/1911:28 AM
It wasn't long ago when a deranged lunatic mowed down and killed ten people on a Toronto street using a van. I won't yield on my right to keep and bear arms. Not going to happen.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: tlguy]
#6591286 08/09/1912:26 PM08/09/1912:26 PM
Today Trump stated that O'Connell is totally on board with his plan and maybe the NRA will be neutral on some of their policy deliberations and that he is working with Dems on this and he has 94% of the GOP members on his side. I guess we will have to wait to see how this all rolls out. In the past little has come of these types of statements but this time around he needs to reclaim the battle ground state Dems and Independents so maybe the line in the sand is moving. Many may like his approach but I find it troubling in the least.
Bryce
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591300 08/09/1901:04 PM08/09/1901:04 PM
Common demoninator in all these shootings,they take place in gun free zones.Theres a place to start.Do away with gun free zones.They are just killing fields.The sickos know theres no one there that is armed and can protect themselves.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
#6591321 08/09/1902:21 PM08/09/1902:21 PM
That should strike fear in the heart of every American. Can you imagine if the president said "Search your house first, go through due process second", or throw people in jail first, go through due process second:? Due process is at the heart of what makes our system fair.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591344 08/09/1902:56 PM08/09/1902:56 PM
You once said you work around police. Do they disarm people until they determine if they are "ok"?
Not usually. All the traffic cops say that when someone says they have a gun and a concealed carry license, they just tell them to leave it where it is and don't touch it, they don't take it from them.
I don't have any idea what they do beyond that. I do know that most cops are very gun friendly, some are not. Some go so far as to say things like they'll honor any concealed carry permit whether or not Nebraska officially honors it, some say they'll draw down on anyone who open carries. So I guess it depends on the cops.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591399 08/09/1903:57 PM08/09/1903:57 PM
If I cop points his weapon at me because I have a gun in plain sight I am going to raise merry hades. If that's not assault then what is? If that isn't putting my life in danger then what is? If I can't have him/her brought up on charges there will be a lawsuit. If an officer cant accept the law they are to abide by and enforce, if they refuse to honor their oath, they need fired.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: hippie]
#6591410 08/09/1904:07 PM08/09/1904:07 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of going to a domestic dispute like they were talking about in the video.
Ah. I have no idea. I think they just arrest em and haul em off to jail, they don't get involved in any weapons issues if there were no weapons involved in the dispute. I know they always send two officers to all domestic calls, but I think that's pretty common practice everywhere. In any case, there's a difference between taking hold of someone's gun for 15 minutes during a call for officer safety reasons and taking all of someone's guns away and preventing them from buying any more without any due process.
Re: Mitch McConnell and gun control
[Re: loosegoose]
#6591820 08/10/1908:01 AM08/10/1908:01 AM