Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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When you watch a human die,and watch another mammal die you can see the soul leaving the body. It is why Native people give thanks to the creator when an animal gives itself to the hunter.
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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My daughter's niece who was recently attacked by a rabid gray fox said "that bad foxey was going to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)!"
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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I have seen it taught that plants have a body, animals have a body and spirit and humans have body, spirit and soul.
Let a man meet a bear robbed of her cubs rather than a fool and his folly. Proverbs 17:12
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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When you watch a human die,and watch another mammal die you can see the soul leaving the body. It is why Native people give thanks to the creator when an animal gives itself to the hunter. I've seen hundreds of animals die and never seen a soul leaving.
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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No Had a preacher a few weeks ago remind me that “We don’t have a body with a soul. We are a soul with a body” Pretty sure it was Ravi Zacharias, but I think he was quoting someone.
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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Foxpaw, you have the Creator of everything that ever was, is now or will be in the future in a very small box. Do you think Creator God would break a sweat creating that horse or any and all of the animals that may inhabit heaven?
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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There is a difference between animals "being in Heaven " and animals "going " to Heaven. Also keep in mind there's a difference between Heaven and the new earth that will be created.
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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Foxpaw, you have the Creator of everything that ever was, is now or will be in the future in a very small box. Do you think Creator God would break a sweat creating that horse or any and all of the animals that may inhabit heaven? Lol, I've been accused of many things but putting God in a box has never been one of them. I thought I was implying I was leaving the gate open for possibly more inhabitants than just man and angels.
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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There is a difference between animals "being in Heaven " and animals "going " to Heaven. Also keep in mind there's a difference between Heaven and the new earth that will be created. Yes I realize their is a difference in being there and going there, but seems I remember a certain ladder in which the angel traffic goes both ways. While I guess the 1/3 of the angels that got threw out won't be going back I don't remember reading that any certain horse couldn't return?
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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This is an interesting topic... It's impossible to definitively answer, but it's always interesting.
The scriptures never say one way or the other for sure. But there are a few things mentioned that make me wonder about a few things.
After the flood God instructed Noah that the animals were to be food for him... But God leveled the playing field by making the animals instinctively afraid of man. How did man/animals interact before?
And the story of Balaam's donkey... The donkey could see the Angel of the Lord blocking the path. But Balaam could not. And then when the donkey refused to move past the Angel, Balaam beat it. At which point the scriptures say that God "opened the donkey's mouth" and it spoke to Balaam and questioned him as to why he was beating him.
If you believe the Bible is fanciful rubbish then this whole discussion is moot. If you believe the narrative of the Bible then there a few scriptures that allude to the fact that the relationship between God, man, and the animals is not as cut and dried as we think.
I do know that after the flood God told Noah, "you WILL have them for meat." So until I get a quit claim memo on that I'm sticking with it.
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Re: Do animals have a soul and afterlife?
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I always say the reason I don't eat store bought burger is the thought of a thousand cows souls in every bite. lol So I raise it myself, butcher it myself, put its name on the package so I can thank them by name with every bite.
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