They gotta do something.The staus quo is unacceptable.Ordinary people so scared shirtless of being gunned down that they stampede at the sound of a sign falling or a car backfiring.

I have to admit, the threads on here don't make sense.

Most people on here say the shootings are because of the mental health of the nuts who do the shooting and on the next post say they are against adding to the background checks. I guess they are ok with mental people shooting up a place?

Here's what i'm asking............................

The mother of the El Paso shooter called the cops but stopped short of saying her kid was nuts. Lets say she did tell them he was nuts.
Now what?

Example two.....................
The kid who bought a gun when he turned 18 and shot up the school in florida.

Should his mental info NOT been entered into the background check system as it wasn't, or should that info be in there to prevent an obviously sick kid from buying the gun?

I agree.

Seems most here agree on that. The question is, what and how do they suggest we slow it/them down?

Here's what i'm asking............................

The mother of the El Paso shooter called the cops but stopped short of saying her kid was nuts. Lets say she did tell them he was nuts.
Now what?

Example two.....................
The kid who bought a gun when he turned 18 and shot up the school in florida.

Should his mental info NOT been entered into the background check system as it wasn't, or should that info be in there to prevent an obviously sick kid from buying the gun?

I have to admit, the threads on here don't make sense.

Most people on here say the shootings are because of the mental health of the nuts who do the shooting and on the next post say they are against adding to the background checks. I guess they are ok with mental people shooting up a place?

Who said anything about doing something wrong?
They should be smart enough to figure something out.
People cannot live in fear like that in a civilized society.

Agreed also , just not in the sense that most think of as "ill" ...as in those who have very little concept of what they're doing, reacting in the moment without careful planning...on/off , or needing medication, etc.

These others are fully aware of what targets to stay away from, calculating carefully most times the places they know they can get attention . They crave attention as an image they want to to be seen as , control and power....at least in their minds . Not "ill" at all in the sense most tend to think of, with little or no control of their actions.

Mental ills, yes....but with enough logic and lucid calculations to know better than to aim at someone who can and will take them out ....example , the kid who gave up immediately when confronted by the fireman ....but still needed to video himself holding his phone the whole time. Not a few others kill themselves when they know they are confronted with no more control , or give up easily, unless they are taken out on sight.

Even those who give a "cause" as an excuse, bottomline, still crave attention, power and control in their meanness. They need to get an audience by advertising to friends, relatives, media, etc. I can only think of less than a handful who didn't let anyone know at all and just acted out once they had their plans in place.

You know the answer to your question, racer man......we also know that solution will never be encouraged ....as for us, awareness everywhere we are , and prepared.

I disagree,thereare always SOME moral people even in crisis when civilization breaks down.

hip-- What do you want added to background checks? Or do you want mandatory background checks for ALL guns sales?