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Re: dang this tree [Re: 52Carl] #6594437
08/14/19 09:27 AM
08/14/19 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Looks like beech to me. The bark is so covered up by lichens you can't see the smooth bark.


I agree with Carl, this tree looks like American Beech with lichens and probably beech bark disease, which is why it looks so dark...


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Re: dang this tree [Re: gryhkl] #6594547
08/14/19 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
It looks like American hornbeam-AKA hop hornbeam, iron wood, muscle wood, blue beech- from looking at the leaves.
The fruit looks, and hangs down like, hops from which beer is made. It grows most often in the creek bottoms and usually doesn't get very big.
If that's what it is, it's a big one.
A better look at the smaller limbs would let us know for sure.



American hophornbeam (Ostrya virginiana) is a separate tree from American Hornbeam (Carpinus caroliniana,aka Blue Beech/Musclewood). Hophornbeam bark looks very much like White Cedar bark.


Re: dang this tree [Re: cotton] #6594557
08/14/19 01:44 PM
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I say American Elm.
Beech is a smoother bark

Re: dang this tree [Re: cotton] #6594825
08/14/19 08:06 PM
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will try and remember to take the good camera out tomorrow after work and get better pictures


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Re: dang this tree [Re: cotton] #6595025
08/14/19 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cotton
will try and remember to take the good camera out tomorrow after work and get better pictures

Get a closeup of a terminal bud (end of the twig).

Re: dang this tree [Re: cotton] #6595136
08/15/19 08:15 AM
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Yes ^^^^..

The picture of the foliage that you have already shows a pretty good image of a leaf. It is NOT asymmetrical the way an elm leaf would be. I still believe it is a diseased Americana beech.


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Re: dang this tree [Re: cotton] #6595611
08/15/19 10:17 PM
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Well, I mark trees for a significant part my living, and I often tell people if they find a local native tree I can not ID (in person, pictures are incomplete information most of the time) I will give them $50 for teaching me what surely must be the very last one I did not know. Never paid yet. DOUBLE serrated leaves, and delicate twigs, put it in Betulacea Family. AKA the birch family to us common folks.

But that’s all I’m saying. I’m enjoying the speculation too much. Experienced foresters go by overall tree shape/appearance and growth habit/pattern more than leaves. No leaves in the winter....It’s in a yard right? That’s the only thing that gives caution for precise ID, many non native trees get planted in yards, and the differences can be subtle enough to require in person inspections or good pictures of certain features.


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