Re: Nafa auction
[Re: Boco]
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08/15/19 12:24 PM
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Not at all,Run,it means Certification and traceability.It excludes fur from the black market where there are no professional standards in the industry. Todays modern consumers demand traceability of all kinds of products,fur is no different. What constitutes black market fur? Protected critters? Pelts from countries with little/no regulations? If so, how does/did that affect the fur market? I think there would not be enough those type pelts to affect the North American fur market.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/15/19 12:41 PM
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How does NAFA know how anybody is trapping, dispatching, skinning their fur?
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: lumberjack391]
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08/15/19 01:06 PM
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How does NAFA know how anybody is trapping, dispatching, skinning their fur? They don't.
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 01:26 PM
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Not at all,Run,it means Certification and traceability.It excludes fur from the black market where there are no professional standards in the industry. Todays modern consumers demand traceability of all kinds of products,fur is no different. What constitutes black market fur? Protected critters? Pelts from countries with little/no regulations? If so, how does/did that affect the fur market? I think there would not be enough those type pelts to affect the North American fur market. Only potententials for black market stuff for NAFA would be pre/post season pelts or pelts from protected animals in certain states being tagged as those from legal states
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/15/19 02:13 PM
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Nafa is only one part of C+T.It is industry wide.The pelts in a fur coat can be traced all the way thru the pipeline to the country of origin.And the countries like china that have no standards are not certified.And countries like US, Can,EU and Russia which adhere to regulatory standards can be certified. Same applies to the ranch fur.Ranch fur that comes from countries with industry standards can be certified. Once fur in a garment can be traceable all the way thru the entire pipeline from producer to end product to country of origin then it can be certified.Furs from countries that don't meet the regulatory standards will not be certified. Like was said it is all about marketing a product in the way demanded by the modern consumer. This is why hundreds of industries have C+T assurances.
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 03:21 PM
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Never been fooled. Look at the solid foundation trapping is on in Canada compared to your country,with all the fur bans etc. I can see who the "fools" are.
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 04:41 PM
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How does NAFA know how anybody is trapping, dispatching, skinning their fur? They don't, it is just a technicality, some paperwork, it is a good idea though for business
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Re: Nafa auction
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Fur prices in Canada for what I can see has been under production costs for some time now. With the exception of northwest coyotes. I hope they stay high for you guys.
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 06:57 PM
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The way I harvest my fur would be illegal in Canada, but it meets the same certification standards as theirs. That would be" No Standard".
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Re: Nafa auction
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You are clueless about C+T if you think it has anything to do with different trapping laws in different jurisdictions.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: Boco]
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08/15/19 07:19 PM
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You are clueless about C+T if you think it has anything to do with different trapping laws in different jurisdictions.
You said they are certifying fur to industry standards. What are the standards?
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 07:22 PM
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Fur prices in Canada for what I can see has been under production costs for some time now. With the exception of northwest coyotes. I hope they stay high for you guys. . If you lie to yourself long enough you start to believe it I suppose When close to 100 percent of beaver harvested these days are hatters profitability is laughable
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 07:39 PM
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"Wild fur, because of the myriad of international laws, federal, state and provincial rules in place is already certified. Third party oversight already exists and all wild fur sold through the auction is certified." Fur Harvester's explanation.
certify:
officially recognize (someone or something) as possessing certain qualifications or meeting certain standards.
Was their some doubt that trapping was occurring unregulated? Is it the 1800's?
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/15/19 07:42 PM
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No,but it had to be traceable thru the pipeline,not just at the auction house.
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Re: Nafa auction
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ethics:
moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.
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Re: Nafa auction
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He also said how it was "skinned"...…… good grief how could they do that?..... traceable to the point of how they were skinned.
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