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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594428
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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594488
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Does anyone with a pulse actually believe that if Democrats were able to ban semi-auto ("assault") rifles, that semi-auto handguns would not quickly be banned as well?

And frankly, any other type of action or cosmetic appearance that liberals and Democrats find "scary?"

Pete

Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594517
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A better investment would be cosmoline, zerust bags, and PVC pipe/caps.

Mike


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: Mike in A-town] #6594543
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
A better investment would be cosmoline, zerust bags, and PVC pipe/caps. Mike

When your gun is in cosmoline, a zerust bag, PVC pipe with caps and buried, you will be one of the 100 others without a gun.

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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594544
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by hippie
James need to get with the times.
They (democrats) are slowly but surely changing the name to "weapons of war". This encompasses more.


I've noticed the same phenomenon. It's getting to where I can hardly watch CNN or MSNBC anymore.

I don't expect to keep military weapons, but do think the Second Amendment includes the right to keep arms equivalent to what our domestic LEOs carry.

LEOs are the experts on what to carry for self-defense. I'm going to emulate the experts. I want what they got.

Jim



local LEO list of weapons
every cop carrying a side arm in 9, 40 or 45 most carrying a glock 17, 19 or a 22, 23 the sherrif was carrying a 26

every patrol car I see has an M4 or AR-15 carbine most also have a 870 shotgun.

I know local departments that have MP5 sub guns in full auto.

near by cities have full auto suppressed 300 blackout SBR rifles

some have armored vehicles former military troop carriers and grenade launchers to launch tear gas canisters.

where do we stop local law enforcement?

the media and politicians certainly seem to want limit citizens from having most of the items listed above

if a state bans private ownership of it , then they should be required to strip their police force of it also seems only fair.

I am not asking for private ownership of a MOAB or tomahawk missiles.

but small arms consistent with what local law enforcement has seems entirely reasonable , after all if the police can make a reasonable justification for police defensive use than they have in-fact made the justification for the citizenry as well.

don't forget Cannons , Cannon were the first thing towns , cities ans states tried to regulate and they did so while the men who wrote the constitution were still alive and any ban on private citizen ownership of Cannon was decided unconstitutional.

if a cannon in private hands was and is still legal we definitely need to see more cannon around also since breach loading cannons were invented while private ownership of cannons was being contested and ruled unconstitutional we should also definitely be having breach loading cannon.

so yes MOAB ,Tomahawk missiles , and Nukes not for private ownership but , cannon ,breach loading cannon , and all small arms currently in use by police departments most definitely should be protected for private ownership. whether or not the media or politicians thing so currently.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: MJM] #6594549
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
A better investment would be cosmoline, zerust bags, and PVC pipe/caps. Mike

When your gun is in cosmoline, a zerust bag, PVC pipe with caps and buried, you will be one of the 100 others without a gun.



while he was probably not planning to bury all of his guns , just those that would have to be turned in or destroyed.

it does bring up the point that " when it is time to bury your guns it is time to dig them up again!" this saying believed to be have been from April 18th and 19th ,1775 the town of Concord spent the night tilling fields and placing the towns armory in the row and plowing a furrow over it burying their guns , the 19th the American Revolution started.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: MJM] #6594570
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
A better investment would be cosmoline, zerust bags, and PVC pipe/caps. Mike

When your gun is in cosmoline, a zerust bag, PVC pipe with caps and buried, you will be one of the 100 others without a gun.


Until I need it.

Mike


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594574
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Not trying to pick on you Pete but why do folk always throw out nuclear weapons when the topic of private ownership of arms comes up?

Buying a nuke is about the cheapest part of owning one.

Mike


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594579
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Well if the poop hits the fan I hope my trapping skills allow me to pick up plenty of 'assault rifles' to use for defense.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: Mike in A-town] #6594633
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Not trying to pick on you Pete but why do folk always throw out nuclear weapons when the topic of private ownership of arms comes up?

Buying a nuke is about the cheapest part of owning one.

Mike



I think it is used as the most extreme example of a weapon , like I said I am not asking for a nuke. it only has 2 purposes , Offensive and the threat of assured Mutual destruction.

some Nation states are barred ownership of them lest they fall into the wrong hands.

but Cannon , I don't think people understand the range of a cannon and it was repeatedly confirmed as a weapon civilians can own.

early cannon were only good for about a mile and a half but the Rifled cannon could reach out to 5 miles by the start of the american civil war.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6594808
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Did it ever occur to you why fireworks may be banned but firearms may not? Because firearms are designed to kill.

That sounds counter-intuitive until you throw in the Second Amendment. Only a people who didn't trust their own government would need a Second Amendment.

Why are harmless noise-makers banned, while dangerous life-taking machines are not banned? Do we trust our government any more today?

This leads down the road of suggesting that "assault rifles" should be Constitutionally protected precisely because they are efficient killing instruments. BINGO.

Jim


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6595031
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Originally Posted by James
Did it ever occur to you why fireworks may be banned but firearms may not? Because firearms are designed to kill.

That sounds counter-intuitive until you throw in the Second Amendment. Only a people who didn't trust their own government would need a Second Amendment.

Why are harmless noise-makers banned, while dangerous life-taking machines are not banned? Do we trust our government any more today?

This leads down the road of suggesting that "assault rifles" should be Constitutionally protected precisely because they are efficient killing instruments. BINGO.

Jim

Dang, Jim! You made a clear, concise, and inarguable post beyond reproach, without any wiggle words. You feeling alright? smile

Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: Rat Masterson] #6595036
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Buying opportunity, selling when the Dems. take control. I bought mine for investments mostly, as most new in the box yet. If the Feds buy them for 5 grand apiece they can have them. At 5 Gs they would own alot of them.

And they'll print some more worthless money to do it to.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6595041
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Fireworks ain't banned here in free America.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6595300
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Originally Posted by James
What say you, ladies and gentlemen: Are we in a buying or selling opportunity?

If "assault rifles" are banned, they probably won't allow grandfather rights in those who already have them.

I have one I'd like to sell, and then would like to get one that's accurate. Seems like a risky time to buy though.

Jim



Best avenue for you to get an accurate answer would be to e-mail the Democrats running that promise a manditory gun buy-back program and ask what they'll be paying.

Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6595303
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Make sure you email the democrats "with a pulse", the ones without might not respond.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: Lugnut] #6595934
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If anyone would learn a little about the English language and history they would understand the AR-15 is protected and so is fully automatic weapons. The government types and those who voted them in have been violating our rights since the Constitution was ratified.


The Second Amendment was put in place to provide for security of a free nation from enemies, foreign and domestic. Not for personal defense, hunting or to be "reasonable". It was ratified on December 15 1791 and on May 8 1792 the first militia act was signed into law. That act came to be because of two conflicts that were lingering because militia men were showing up untrained and poorly/not armed. The government couldn't afford providing weapons for each member.(Shay's and Whiskey Rebellion.) For over 100 years it was law that men of certain ages were REQUIRED to PRIVATELY own weapons suitable for MILITARY BATTLE. It didn't preclude anyone else from joining but mandated some age groups. The prefatory phrase in the 2nd states purpose and does not add to, subtract, of modify the operative phrase: "the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed". It is also clear that "people" is not collective as it clearly states "State" and "Federal" in other places in the constitution when talking about collective rights.

This whole "reasonable"/ "sensible" argument is a way of eroding your rights. Remember, some people once thought it was reasonable that a black man was could be a slave.

You have the right to "bear" battle rifles and tell the clueless idiots who state otherwise to kiss yours! We should stop losing ground and start demanding our rights be restored.


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Re: Speaking even more of assault rifles [Re: James] #6595937
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weren't semis banned for ten years?

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Originally Posted by gryhkl
weren't semis banned for ten years?


No, only semi autos with two or more features from a list. (For example a bayonet lug and a barrel shroud-you could have one or the other, but not both). Some guns were also banned by name.

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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by gryhkl
weren't semis banned for ten years?


No, only semi autos with two or more features from a list. (For example a bayonet lug and a barrel shroud-you could have one or the other, but not both). Some guns were also banned by name.


How did we ever let that happen or get along when such a law was in effect?

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