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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6596847
08/17/19 05:27 PM
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Boy are you dense.The footnote is for encapsulating raccoon traps only.
And,snares are not tested but certified by the competent authority(provincial wildlife managers),and accepted in the aihts agreement since the competent authority is responsible for implementing the agreement.
Gibb is on the TRDC ,he can straighten you out on your lack of ability to understand the agreement.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6596859
08/17/19 05:48 PM
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After reading it over and over I agree the footnote refers only to the coon traps. Even in Ontario, New Brunswick, and Quebec the use of certified restraining devices for coyotes is not mandatory, yet, by certified Canadian trappers.

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6596865
08/17/19 06:00 PM
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The traps currently in use are certified until a better trap can be produced.After a better trap is produced there is a several year phase in before current traps are removed from the list of approved traps,and no longer certified by the competent authority for use.


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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6596912
08/17/19 07:01 PM
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The full page of phase 2 restraining traps is below for everyone to read. Oddly enough, this issue came up at one of the demos at the New England Trappers Weekend on Friday. A New Brunswick trapper said that they were limited to certain footholds for coyotes and specifically mentioned the Bridger #3 on the list if I'm not mistaken. So apparently the confusion exists even for Canadian residents??? I don't know.

In any event, a big thumbs up to Dirt for his above post -- good on you! The wording is not at all clear, and relegating such an exception to a footnote only invites further misunderstanding. What is clear, however, is that Canadian trappers will be severely restricted in what they can use to trap canines and felines in the near future. I'll stick with the Good Ol' US of A if you don't mind.

Boco, you keep brushing off the inevitable because the requirements have not yet gone into effect. But that final destination is clearly before you, and that is one trail's end I'd never want to reach.

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6596913
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I have a new found respect for the Canadian fur Industry's ability to obfuscate and delay.


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Re: Nafa auction [Re: Boco] #6596936
08/17/19 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You believe PETA?-idiot.



BOCO,

When you resort to name calling,

Does this mean you have run out of

legitimate ideas to back up your assertions ? laugh

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: Dirt] #6596940
08/17/19 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I have a new found respect for the Canadian fur Industry's ability to obfuscate and delay.


Obfuscate.

verb.

to render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. to blur, muddle, jumble,

complicate, garble, muddy, cloud, befog. laugh

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6596973
08/17/19 08:55 PM
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Yea we all use the Breathe Easy Live Beaver trap……..or the Belisle Super X 120 trap for weasel

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: lumberjack391] #6597040
08/17/19 10:22 PM
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Boco really dont care about the restrictions because none of them restrict him personally!!! He has no coyotes in hos area but go ahead and throw you fellow trappers under the bus.....C+T is on its way out along with Cg

Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6597087
08/18/19 12:00 AM
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Belisle Super X 120 trap for weasel


Seems like a tad bit overkill...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Nafa auction [Re: walleyed] #6597110
08/18/19 02:28 AM
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No that's just to make people mad.
Are you the t-man dictionary walleyes?
We can use all kinds of traps and snares here that you cant.Not restricted at all for anything.
I like to harvest dead animals.It is a big advantage for several reasons,but I use footholds occasionally for stubborn critters,but it means that ethically I must check those traps daily,and that is a big disadvantage for me.
We don't throw trappers under the bus here,that is an American thing by the looks of a lot of these threads.I think it is a spin off from that selfish America first thing.Canadians are the opposite of that way of thinking.

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: NonPCfed] #6597111
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A 120 is an excellent trap for weasels,I trap hundreds of them with that trap.


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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6597112
08/18/19 02:38 AM
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Listen you Forest Gump types,if things seem overly obfuscated to you ask walleyed for some clarity,he is a walking dictionary.


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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6597120
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We aren't allowed Conibears outside of a watercourse or in trees. The people should be glad for that law and buy more fur.

Re: Nafa auction [Re: Boco] #6597162
08/18/19 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I like to harvest dead animals.It is a big advantage for several reasons,but I use footholds occasionally for stubborn critters,but it means that ethically I must check those traps daily,and that is a big disadvantage for me.

1) They're easier to skin that way.
2) They're not as stubborn.
3) I'm lazy and like to sleep in most days, and then watch Ellen in my nightgown on the sofa.

Question for Walleyed (TMan's resident dictionary). Did I interpret Boco's cogitations correctly here?


"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound."
Jim Beckwourth (1856)
Re: Nafa auction [Re: mainer] #6597175
08/18/19 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mainer
Originally Posted by Boco
I like to harvest dead animals.It is a big advantage for several reasons,but I use footholds occasionally for stubborn critters,but it means that ethically I must check those traps daily,and that is a big disadvantage for me.

1) They're easier to skin that way.
2) They're not as stubborn.
3) I'm lazy and like to sleep in most days, and then watch Ellen in my nightgown on the sofa.

Question for Walleyed (TMan's resident dictionary). Did I interpret Boco's cogitations correctly here?


Cogitation:Definition:

Noun.

The action of thinking deeply about something, contemplation.

thought, thinking, consideration, mulling over, meditation, study, deliberation, pondering, reflection,

rumination, musing speculation, brooding, agonizing, worrying, puzzling.

Right on target, Mainer.

But, the inner working's of BOCO'S mind are really uncharted territory where no sane

man has gone before !!!

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: walleyed] #6597182
08/18/19 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyed



BOCO,

When you resort to name calling,

Does this mean you have run out of

legitimate ideas to back up your assertions ? laugh

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Originally Posted by boco
No, that's just to make people mad.


So you freely admit to being a troll, and to flaming

your fellow trappers for sport and entertainment ?

That's not very nice, (Or Canadian) of you, BOCO !!!

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: Boco] #6597186
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Originally Posted by Boco
A 120 is an excellent trap for weasels,I trap hundreds of them with that trap.


Hundreds per year ? confused

Or did you mean to say: I've trapped hundreds of them (in my career) with that trap ?

please clarify.

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Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6597191
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The sky is falling...........
everybody prepare and put out all your unsold racoon skins to soften the blow of the fall...........

How many times do you have to beat this dead horse you two.....

Re: Nafa auction [Re: coonman220] #6597255
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C & T for wild fur is like background checks and gun control. Neither one will be of use due to way too many loop holes.

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