Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/17/19 05:27 PM
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Boy are you dense.The footnote is for encapsulating raccoon traps only. And,snares are not tested but certified by the competent authority(provincial wildlife managers),and accepted in the aihts agreement since the competent authority is responsible for implementing the agreement. Gibb is on the TRDC ,he can straighten you out on your lack of ability to understand the agreement.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/17/19 05:48 PM
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After reading it over and over I agree the footnote refers only to the coon traps. Even in Ontario, New Brunswick, and Quebec the use of certified restraining devices for coyotes is not mandatory, yet, by certified Canadian trappers.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/17/19 06:00 PM
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The traps currently in use are certified until a better trap can be produced.After a better trap is produced there is a several year phase in before current traps are removed from the list of approved traps,and no longer certified by the competent authority for use.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/17/19 07:01 PM
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The full page of phase 2 restraining traps is below for everyone to read. Oddly enough, this issue came up at one of the demos at the New England Trappers Weekend on Friday. A New Brunswick trapper said that they were limited to certain footholds for coyotes and specifically mentioned the Bridger #3 on the list if I'm not mistaken. So apparently the confusion exists even for Canadian residents??? I don't know. In any event, a big thumbs up to Dirt for his above post -- good on you! The wording is not at all clear, and relegating such an exception to a footnote only invites further misunderstanding. What is clear, however, is that Canadian trappers will be severely restricted in what they can use to trap canines and felines in the near future. I'll stick with the Good Ol' US of A if you don't mind. Boco, you keep brushing off the inevitable because the requirements have not yet gone into effect. But that final destination is clearly before you, and that is one trail's end I'd never want to reach.
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/17/19 07:01 PM
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I have a new found respect for the Canadian fur Industry's ability to obfuscate and delay.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: Boco]
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08/17/19 07:40 PM
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BOCO, When you resort to name calling, Does this mean you have run out of legitimate ideas to back up your assertions ? w
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: Dirt]
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08/17/19 07:48 PM
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I have a new found respect for the Canadian fur Industry's ability to obfuscate and delay. Obfuscate. verb. to render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. to blur, muddle, jumble, complicate, garble, muddy, cloud, befog. w
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/17/19 08:55 PM
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Yea we all use the Breathe Easy Live Beaver trap……..or the Belisle Super X 120 trap for weasel
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/18/19 12:00 AM
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Belisle Super X 120 trap for weasel Seems like a tad bit overkill...
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: walleyed]
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08/18/19 02:28 AM
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No that's just to make people mad. Are you the t-man dictionary walleyes? We can use all kinds of traps and snares here that you cant.Not restricted at all for anything. I like to harvest dead animals.It is a big advantage for several reasons,but I use footholds occasionally for stubborn critters,but it means that ethically I must check those traps daily,and that is a big disadvantage for me. We don't throw trappers under the bus here,that is an American thing by the looks of a lot of these threads.I think it is a spin off from that selfish America first thing.Canadians are the opposite of that way of thinking.
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/18/19 02:36 AM
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A 120 is an excellent trap for weasels,I trap hundreds of them with that trap.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: coonman220]
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08/18/19 02:38 AM
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Listen you Forest Gump types,if things seem overly obfuscated to you ask walleyed for some clarity,he is a walking dictionary.
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: Boco]
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08/18/19 07:51 AM
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I like to harvest dead animals.It is a big advantage for several reasons,but I use footholds occasionally for stubborn critters,but it means that ethically I must check those traps daily,and that is a big disadvantage for me. 1) They're easier to skin that way. 2) They're not as stubborn. 3) I'm lazy and like to sleep in most days, and then watch Ellen in my nightgown on the sofa. Question for Walleyed (TMan's resident dictionary). Did I interpret Boco's cogitations correctly here?
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: mainer]
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08/18/19 08:21 AM
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I like to harvest dead animals.It is a big advantage for several reasons,but I use footholds occasionally for stubborn critters,but it means that ethically I must check those traps daily,and that is a big disadvantage for me. 1) They're easier to skin that way. 2) They're not as stubborn. 3) I'm lazy and like to sleep in most days, and then watch Ellen in my nightgown on the sofa. Question for Walleyed (TMan's resident dictionary). Did I interpret Boco's cogitations correctly here? Cogitation:Definition: Noun. The action of thinking deeply about something, contemplation. thought, thinking, consideration, mulling over, meditation, study, deliberation, pondering, reflection, rumination, musing speculation, brooding, agonizing, worrying, puzzling. Right on target, Mainer. But, the inner working's of BOCO'S mind are really uncharted territory where no sane man has gone before !!! w
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Re: Nafa auction
[Re: walleyed]
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08/18/19 08:32 AM
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BOCO, When you resort to name calling, Does this mean you have run out of legitimate ideas to back up your assertions ? w No, that's just to make people mad. So you freely admit to being a troll, and to flaming your fellow trappers for sport and entertainment ? That's not very nice, (Or Canadian) of you, BOCO !!! w
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Re: Nafa auction
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08/18/19 08:40 AM
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A 120 is an excellent trap for weasels,I trap hundreds of them with that trap. Hundreds per year ? Or did you mean to say: I've trapped hundreds of them (in my career) with that trap ? please clarify. w
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