Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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My personal definitions are probably different than most. Because of the way the regulations are written in Idaho, I define bait as some attractant that is solid enough that it can't be poured from a container, while lure is something that can indeed be poured. We have a regulation that states that no part of any game animal or protected species can be used for bait, but bleached bones and "liquid scent" may be used. Also, we have a regulation that states that no trap or snare can be used within 30 feet of exposed bait. Thus, using "lure" (liquid), raptors and other scavenger birds (gray jays, magpies, etc.) aren't attracted by liquid, and you can put your trap 12" in front of a dirthole, and even if the squirrels, mice, or whatever, exposes that lure, you're not going to be in violation of the regulation. Make sense?
Jack
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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Lure is an attraction that brings an animal to a set location. Bait is the substance that holds the animal at the set and gets it working the set until captured.
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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Lure is an attraction that brings an animal to a set location. Bait is the substance that holds the animal at the set and gets it working the set until captured. X2
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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Lure is an attraction that brings an animal to a set location. Bait is the substance that holds the animal at the set and gets it working the set until captured. X2 I have to slightly disagree because there are lures that promote digging and keep the animal there working it.
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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My personal definitions are probably different than most. Because of the way the regulations are written in Idaho, I define bait as some attractant that is solid enough that it can't be poured from a container, while lure is something that can indeed be poured. We have a regulation that states that no part of any game animal or protected species can be used for bait, but bleached bones and "liquid scent" may be used. Also, we have a regulation that states that no trap or snare can be used within 30 feet of exposed bait. Thus, using "lure" (liquid), raptors and other scavenger birds (gray jays, magpies, etc.) aren't attracted by liquid, and you can put your trap 12" in front of a dirthole, and even if the squirrels, mice, or whatever, exposes that lure, you're not going to be in violation of the regulation. Make sense?
Jack What would pelletized baits like fisf food do baits, catfood baits be considered under that law? They can be poured .
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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Not to mention, there are MANY "baits" that have lure ingredients in them, making them a lure and bait in one. In short, I agree with bctomcat.
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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Sniper - Good question. I guess I misspoke. The Idaho regulation clearly states "bleached bones or liquid" do not qualify as "bait", but are rather classified as "lure", the way I understand it.
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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An excellent canine trapper once told me that bait in the early part of the fur season acts more as a lure since the animal doesn’t want to eat it but is attracted to as a curiosity. After the season progresses into the winter cold it is now a bait since the critter now wants to eat it I am far from an expert by any means and likely never will be, but they gotta eat in the summer right? Granted, canines are catching a lot of mice, voles, deer fawns, rabbits, etc. But I've been making mock dirt hole sets (as well as urine posts) all summer. All of the bait I put in the dirt holes has been eaten by the canines that are working the sets. Some of that bait is fairly aged and some of it is pretty fresh. Personally, in my very limited experience I have found coyotes and a few wolves very eager and willing to eat bait I've been putting out in the summer months, with no traps set, obviously.
Last edited by Wild_Idaho; 08/22/19 10:56 PM. Reason: typed winter months when I meant summer months
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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they both are used for attracting no different than using Creek Chubs or a Rapala for Pike someone in the distant past discovered a smear of Castor was a lot easier to carry than a mule full of Beaver carcasses nowdays what goes into lure preparation to heighten, enlighten ,preserve and extend the oder Luremakers should get a Nobel Prize for Chemistry
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Re: what makes a lure, a luire and a bait, a bait
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What makes a lure a lure and a bait a bait? I would think a bait is something they can eat, and a lure is just smell. I think you correctly answered your own question.
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