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Good stuff guys and gals. The CBC poll has now changed to show favorable results for fur industry where we were way behind last week. We now show fur as being the green & common sense choice and that is much better then not trying to fight back against the folks that present faux fur as the answer..


New results are::


Does this change your mind about fur?

No, I've always thought it was a good choice
(684) 48%


Yes, I might consider it now
(56) 4%


Interesting, but not yet convinced
(55) 4%



No way, ridiculous
(641) 45%


Total Votes: 1436


Also note that the sealers were also supported by 60 % on the other vote in the first poll.


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48% to 45%. were ahead but we need more votes


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we win 48 to 44 yayyayyayyay

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What Watson really thinks of humans that risk their lives to feed their families.

Militant environmentalist says hunter deaths tragic, but not as tragic as seal slaughter
Apr 02, 2008 02:14 PM
THE CANADIAN PRESS

HALIFAX–Environmental crusader Paul Watson says the deaths of at least three seal hunters last weekend north of Cape Breton are a tragedy, but the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of seal pups ``is an even greater tragedy."

Watson, head of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, was commenting on the capsizing Saturday of a Quebec-based trawler as it was being towed by a coast guard icebreaker on the second day of annual East Coast seal hunt.

Two men survived the sinking and another is missing an presumed drowned.

Watson issued a statement today that took aim at seal hunters, describing them as "baby killers" . . . "who are seeking sympathy because some of their own died."

"One of the sealers was quoted as saying that he felt absolutely helpless as he watched the boat sink with sealers on board," Watson said in a statement released today.

"I can't think of anything that defines helplessness and fear more than a seal pup on the ice that can't swim or escape as it is approached by some cigarette-smoking ape with a club. . . .They are vicious killers."

Within hours, federal Fisheries Minister Loyola Hearn fired off an equally tough statement, blasting Watson for trivializing the deaths.

“Mr. Watson has proven to the world that he is gutless, shameless, and has not one shred of human decency,” Hearn said. ``His lust for media coverage knows no bounds.

Hearn, Newfoundland’s representative in the federal cabinet, took the opportunity to once again express his condolences to the grieving families, and he stressed that the government is committed to the “safety and security” of sealers.

“I want to confirm that the militant actions of the Sea Shepherd Society have not gone unnoticed are currently under investigation.”

Earlier this week, a coast guard icebreaker and the Sea Shepherd boat, the Farley Mowat, collided about 60 kilometres north of Cape Breton. Watson and the coast guard later traded accusations over who was to blame for the minor scrape.

At least two sealers came forward today to say they called for help from the coast guard vessel as the Farley Mowat got too close to their hunting party.

Shane Briand said the Farley Mowat pursued his 14-metre boat on Sunday as he and his crew were navigating ice-clogged waters in the hunt for seals.

The Nova Scotia-based fisherman said Watson’s steel-hulled, 60-metre vessel came within 30 metres of his boat, chipping away nearby floes.

“We had men on the ice and we almost lost one man because of the Farley Mowat — it broke the ice up underneath his feet,” he said from Port aux Basques, Nfld., where he was taking a break before resuming the hunt.

“We were scared to go out on the ice because if the Farley Mowat came at you, we wouldn’t get out of the ice on time. It was a hard day.”

Watson denied the allegations, claiming his vessel was rammed twice by the coast guard icebreaker Des Groseilliers that day.

About 6,000 hunters in Atlantic Canada are expected to kill a maximum of 275,000 seals — virtually all of them harp seals — during the spring hunt.

Investigators with the Transportation Safety Board are expected to interview survivors and witnesses today on Iles-de-la-Madeleine, a cluster of islands north of PE.I.

Meanwhile, residents of the windswept archipelago are preparing to say goodbye to their lost neighbours with a public viewing on Friday and funerals on Saturday.

In Quebec, the leader of the opposition Action democratique du Quebec party, Mario Dumont, called for a full public inquiry into the deaths.


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defenceless "baby" seals that can't escape or swim? what ice flow is he on? Can't be where the seal hunt is because them seals are independent, the cow seals have left them for 2 or 3 weeks now, oh wait but that doesn't make it as dramatic which equals less money.


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defenceless "baby" seals that can't escape or swim? what ice flow is he on? Can't be where the seal hunt is because them seals are independent, the cow seals have left them for 2 or 3 weeks now, oh wait but that doesn't make it as dramatic which equals less money.



Last year those same ARA fanatics were claiming there wasn't enough ice to sustain a rookery for the seals. Their lie was obvious because boats were being crushed and lost because of the HEAVY ICE.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/19/AR2007041902426.html


Pack Ice Traps Boats After Seal Hunt
Canadian Coast Guard Drops Supplies for 400 on Board

By Doug Struck
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, April 20, 2007; Page A24

TORONTO, April 19 -- More than 100 fishing boats struggling to return from the annual seal hunt with about 400 people aboard were trapped in shifting pack ice off Newfoundland, helpless as an Arctic wind squeezes the ice tight around their vessels, the Canadian Coast Guard said Thursday.

The moving pack ice, long the nemesis of explorers and sailors in the frozen north, was so thick it trapped two of five icebreakers sent to the scene, according to coast guard communications officer Susan Keough in St. John's, Newfoundland. One was freed Thursday; the other remained icebound.


Ice trapped the Labrador Concept in St. Anthony, Newfoundland, last week. Scores of boats that did get out of port for this year's seal hunt have been caught coming back.
Ice trapped the Labrador Concept in St. Anthony, Newfoundland, last week. Scores of boats that did get out of port for this year's seal hunt have been caught coming back. (By Aaron Beswick

Five fishing boats were at least temporarily abandoned when ice damaged their hulls or lifted the vessels out of the water, Keough said. The 24 crewmen from those boats walked across the pack ice to nearby coast guard icebreakers, and a dozen were then flown home, Keough said.

Three coast guard helicopters were dropping water, fuel and food to other stranded vessels. "Right now, we don't think they are in any immediate danger," Keough said. "We are basically observing the vessels to make sure they are okay. If any appear to be too damaged, they will be evacuated."

The sailors are hoping that the frigid wind from the northeast, which has piled the floating sea ice against Newfoundland's northern shore, will abate and that the ice pressure will ease. But no change was forecast for several days.

"We haven't seen conditions like this in over 10 years," Keough said. "We do regularly see ice each year, but to have this many vessels out there is unusual."

Jack Troake, 71, said he and five crewmen on the Lone Fisher returned to their port of Twillingate at 3 a.m. Tuesday with their quota of 300 seal pelts, just ahead of the northeast winds. "We wanted to get out of there as fast as we could," he said. "When it's a dry northeaster like this, it lasts for a long, long time. We didn't want to get trapped."

Troake, who has been fishing all his life and who lost a son when a fishing boat capsized, recalled other years in which the pack ice has been thick and dangerous. "But back then, we had maybe 35 boats out for the seal hunt," he said. "Now we have nearly 700 vessels. And a lot of the younger generation that are out there now haven't seen this kind of situation."

"It's economic imperative," said Jim Winter, co-founder of the Canadian Sealers Association. "As the other fisheries have become less productive, more boats are out after the seals."

The seal hunt causes an annual controversy, as hunters shoot or club young seals on the ice for their pelts and oil. In the southern Gulf of St. Lawrence, the hunt was mostly canceled this year because the ice there has melted after a succession of warmer winters. Scientists estimate that thousands of pups drowned.

But in the Labrador Sea off Newfoundland, thick ice kept some of the boats from getting out of port and then captured some that did make it out. "The ice closed in again," Winter said. "The power of the ice, it's hard to imagine when you are sitting on land."

Most of the hunters are fishermen who rely on the short seal season at the beginning of spring to help finance the crab and shrimp fishing that follows, Troake said.

"Anytime you take a boat to sea in water, let alone ice, it's a risk," Winter said. "The coast guard is doing a very good job, but with Mother Nature, that's no guarantee it's going to work out."


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Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Kicked Off French Island
April 4, 2008

http://www.vocm.com/news-info.asp?id=27792

Residents of St. Pierre have revolted against members of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, and have driven them from the refuge of St. Pierre Harbor. Fishermen on the island are upset with actions of the group and some statements they are making regarding the seal hunt. More than a hundred fishermen converged on the wharf in St. Pierre Harbor this morning to let members of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society know that they were not welcome on the French island. After cutting the mooring ropes of the Farley Mowat, the crew was told to leave the French island and not come back.


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Paul Watson & Sea Shepherd lose another Board Member because of his callous remarks about drowned sealers. Then again one must remember May is seeking to be a Member of Parliament and Prime Minister of Canada from here in Nova Scotia. She wouldn't be able to run for dog catcher here if she allowed Watson's remarks to go unchallenged.


http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1047533.html


OTTAWA — Green Party Leader Elizabeth May has decided to resign from the advisory board of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society after the group’s leader, Paul Watson, said Wednesday that the killing of seals in the annual hunt "is an even greater tragedy" than the death of four sealers.

Ms. May, who has long been a member of the society’s advisory board, decided during the course of a telephone interview Thursday that she should resign.

"It doesn’t mean overall the Sea Shepherd society has not done good work, but as the leader of a federal political party, I probably shouldn’t be on an advisory committee," she said from New York, where she was taking part in a panel discussion. "I was staying on (the committee) in hopes of meeting Pierce Brosnan. Say I’ll withdraw from the advisory committee, and I’ll e-mail Paul later."

Ms. May said she was horrified by the deaths of four sealers from the Iles-de-la-Madeleine last week, and even opponents of the seal hunt, such as Green party members, want sealers to be safe.

In a release Wednesday, Mr. Watson, a radical activist who has spent decades trying to disrupt the seal hunt and other marine mammal hunts around the world, described the people of the Iles-de-la-Madeleine as barbarians. Mr. Watson was once beaten up by some islanders.

He described the hunters as "baby killers . . . who are seeking sympathy because some of their own died."

"One of the sealers was quoted as saying that he felt absolutely helpless as he watched the boat sink with sealers on board," he said. "I can’t think of anything that defines helplessness and fear more than a seal pup on the ice that can’t swim or escape as it is approached by some cigarette-smoking ape with a club. . . . They are vicious killers."

Ms. May said she will still count Mr. Watson as a friend, but she can’t support his comments.

"I can’t be associated with those comments. They’re just offensive and hurtful."

She said some members of her party may be upset that she is distancing herself from the group.

"I’m not renouncing Paul Watson but I’m not comfortable being on his advisory committee."

She said the organization does "good work for the most part."

Fabian Manning, a Newfoundland MP and the Conservative chairman of the Commons fisheries committee, said Ms. May should never have been on the board in the first place.

"I question anybody who would be involved with these people in the first place, to be honest with you, knowing how important the seal hunt is to the Maritimes and Canada as a whole. And certainly, the comments from Mr. Watson border on the crazy."

( smaher@herald.ca)


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Watson has Canadian Government on his case now and his actions this week have put him and the Sea Shepherd crew in position for major charges. This time the sealers were very clever and took lots of pictures & video proving Watson to be a liar and a a danger on the High Seas.


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Hearn vows anti-sealing ship will be charged
Ken Meaney , Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, April 03, 2008
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politi...6defada&k=24267

OTTAWA - The federal fisheries minister says charges will be laid in
connection with an alleged incident involving an anti-seal hunt vessel
last weekend.

"We will protect our sealers. ... we will pursue charges," Loyola
Hearn said in the House of Commons Thursday.

Sealer Shane Briand said the Farley Mowat, operated by the Sea
Shepherd Conservation Society, endangered the lives of his crew when
it came close to them on Sunday about 60 kilometres off Cape Breton.

Speaking from Port aux Basques, N.L. on Thursday, Briand said the much
larger Mowat chased down his 14-metre boat throughout the day,
stopping only when a Canadian Coast Guard vessel arrived and put
itself between them.

"She started harassing us right away. She almost took the stabilizer
off, she was that close. And we had a guy on the ice and she broke the
ice up under his feet," he said.

Briand, who says he gave a statement to fisheries officers on
Thursday, said they feared for their lives when the Mowat came within
30 metres, several times, of his boat, the Cathy Erlene.

That's contrary to seal hunt regulations, which specify observers
cannot come closer than a half mile to sealers.

"The coast guard was keeping us safe. ... If they hadn't arrived, we
would have had to get in our speed boats to escape," Briand said.

The coast guard and the Sea Shepherd Society have given differing
accounts of the incident, with the crew of the conservation group's
ship insisting the icebreaker Des Groseilliers intentionally rammed
them twice.

Hearn denies that happened. He says the two vessels merely "grazed,"
but when the Mowat ignored warnings to stay away from sealers, it
broke the law, he added.

"They have endangered our sealers. We are aware of that. We have these
facts documented," he told radio station VOCM in St. John's Wednesday.

On the society's website, Sea Shepherd founder Paul Watson says the
crew of the Mowat have video proving they did nothing wrong.

Briand, of Dingwall, N.S., said his crew also took pictures, showing
the 54-metre steel-hulled Mowat looming over them. He said fisheries
officers now have the photos.

In his comments Wednesday, Hearn said if the Mowat won't obey orders
to return to a Canadian port the only option will be to board the ship
at sea, which he called an extremely dangerous operation.

The Mowat is now docked in the French islands of St-Pierre-Miquelon,
off Newfoundland's south coast, while waiting for the hunt to resume
next week.

The annual seal hunt got off to a tragic start when the 12-metre
Magdalen Islands sealer L'Acadien II sank while under tow by a coast
guard ship last Saturday. Three men died and another's body has not
been recovered. Only two men survived.

On Wednesday, the two survivors recounted the events leading to the
sinking at a sombre news conference on the Magdalen Islands.

As that was happening, Watson was calling the sealers' deaths a
tragedy, but the slaughter of young seals a "greater tragedy."

Hearn fired back that the comments show Watson "is gutless, shameless,
and has not one shred of human decency."

(c) Canwest News Service 2008


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Anti sealer propagandist Paul Watson gets hammered in this article. A lot of people in the fur industry don't realize how important this issue is to the entire conservation of animals in North America but it is a high stakes game which must be won by our biologists and those interested in conservation methodology..



National Post (CAN)Editorial The Post editorial board on Paul Watson: Taking sides against mankind by Colby Cosh April 06, 2008, 4:21 PM

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/04/07/164309.aspx
No one who follows environmentalism should have been surprised last week to hear Sea Shepherd Conservation Society chief Paul Watson describe the Canadian commercial seal hunt as a "greater tragedy" than the maritime deaths of four sealers. And we think Mr. Watson would be entirely in agreement with us about that. His statement struck many as controversial, but he is a controversial man. Every action he has taken in the four decades since he co-founded what was to become Greenpeace has been an expression of his belief that human life is no more important than animal life and that the "anthropocentric" view of the world is a philosophical disorder beyond which we need to evolve as a species.


Plenty of environmentalists pay lip service to this philosophy; Watson is the man who, more than perhaps anyone else on the planet, acts on it and carries it to its logical conclusions. One of these conclusions is that four humans don't add up to much in the balance against the hundreds of thousands of seals that the hunt culls each year.

We are not admirers of Watson. Under current management, this newspaper is not likely to be tempted to officially decree him an"Environmental Hero of the 20th Century", as Time magazine once did.What makes a Hero, apparently, is a long history of threatening commercial ships and their crews, of using the law of the sea to escape the consequences of one's actions while tirelessly denouncing that law, and of promoting a self-image that borders on the megalomaniac. Watson's confrontational personality led to a bitter and permanent breach with Greenpeace in 1979, forced his departure from the board of the Sierra Club last year, and has gotten him permanently banned from meetings of the International Whaling Commission. He has also come under increasing scrutiny for what some claim is carelessness in guarding the safety of his own (largely volunteer)crews. Last month the Australian Broadcasting Corporation aired a feature in which workers from the society's MV Steve Irwin claimed that a Zodiac boat capsized in Antarctic waters and ejected four sailors after being lowered from the deck improperly. Two Zodiacs pursuing whalers have recently lost contact with their mother ship in separate incidents, and the ship's doctor of the Steve Irwin told the ABC about having to beg hospitals for emergency medical supplies and buy anti-hypothermia suits from eBay with his own money to ensure that every crew member had one. Some Sea Shepherd volunteers refused to speak to the ABC, according to reporter Felicity Ogilvie, because"they were worried about being personally abused by Paul Watson".


This sort of behavior shouldn't be surprising either, since Watson makes no secret of his attitude toward the human race. A November New Yorker profile summed up his particular variety of "deep"environmentalism, noting his habit of muttering darkly about the ignorance of us "[Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot] hominids". "Watson believes," writes Raffi Khatchadourian, "that humanity's impulse to organize its surroundings,no matter how benign-seeming or elevating, is inherently destructive.This impulse—dating as far back as the first hoe—has been considered beneficial, Watson argues, because people have assumed that altering the shape of nature does not have real consequences, or because they have measured those consequences only in relation to how they affect humanity, or because they believe that they have a God-given right to do what they wish with plants and animals."


What is Watson's preferred solution? In an article written in May of last year, he called upon the human race to "radically and intelligently" reduce its number to less than one billion. "I was once severely criticized for describing human beings as being the 'AIDS of the Earth'," he wrote. "I make no apologies for that statement."Watson thinks that "No human community should be larger than 20,000people and separated from other communities by wilderness areas. ...In other words, people should be placed in parks within ecosystems instead of parks placed in human communities. We need vast areas of the planet where humans do not live at all and where other species are free to evolve without human interference."


It is simply absurd to expect someone who regards humans as a fatal virus to wring his hands and weep over the deaths of four sealers.Watson's supporters and defenders are backing an ideology that is unapologetically anti-human. What is surprising is that Mr. Watson's well-publicized views have, until now, not disqualified him from affiliation with the leader of an allegedly mainstream Canadian political party. Last week, Elizabeth May, leader of Canada's Greens,announced that she was resigning from the advisory board of Sea Shepherd. "I can't be associated with [Mr. Watson's] comments," said a flustered May. "They're just offensive and hurtful."


But she was careful to praise Watson's "good work" and to state "I'm not renouncing Paul Watson." Why not?

End of Article


Let me tell the Good Author WHY the head of the Green Party here in Canada severed her relationship with the Sea Shepherd Board. She is running for Member of Parliament in Rural Nova Scotia where the sealers are known to be making a living and protecting our Marine Ecology at the same time by culling seals. She had to break with Watson's ignorant claims to have any opportunity of winning a seat in Rural Nova Scotia but she is also running as Political leader of the Green Party in the hopes of becoming Prime Minister. The urban Greenies of our major cities in Canada actually are so far removed from the real world that they would be apt to vote against Elizabeth May for speaking out against Watson. Thus May is pretending to honor the Rural vote and the urban vote at the same time by condemning Watson & praising him at the same time Despite his hatred for mankind. I will not be voting Green because I know just how devious May's game is and the Conservative government here has decided to put Watson's officers in Court for his vile actions. They have my vote for sure.


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Will these sanctimonious nut jobs ever realize that culling animals in balance is actually what keeps packs and herd health plus ecosystems from crashing?? Seal culls are actually good for sealers, ecosystem & for seals, as such culls stave off starvation & contagion that are associated with over abundance of a species. Then again the anti hunters are making considerably more then the hunters & they could care less if our Marine Ecology collapses.


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http://www.thewesternstar.com/index.cfm?sid=124704&sc=506
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The Western Star
ST. JOHN'S
Anti-sealing group takes gentler approach
09/04/08
http://www.thewesternstar.com/index.cfm?sid=124704&sc=506

Three representatives of the U.S.-based Friends of Animals interest
group are in St. John's.

The group says it takes a less confrontational approach compared to
other animal rights groups over the East Coast Canadian seal hunt.

Friends of Animals says it is trying to organize a public meeting with
the city's mayor, animals rights activists, pro-sealing advocates and
provincial officials, with a focus on finding other options for
sealers.

"We're here to call on the city and Newfoundland to find better
employment opportunities for people on the ice killing seals," said
group member Dave Sishkoff. "It's dangerous work. Four people have
died this year. It's our opinion that the government is throwing
people to the ice instead of providing other employment."

Shishkoff says Friends of Animals takes a gentler approach to opposing
the seal hunt and criticized Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherd Society,
who last week reacted to the death of four sealers during this year's
hunt by calling the slaughter of seals a "greater tragedy." Watson
described sealers as "sadistic baby killers" and cigarette-smoking
apes with clubs. Sishkoff disagrees with those comments.

"I think that's inappropriate because animal rights groups are about
peace and respect for other animals and here we have people out there
threatening humans," said Sishkoff. "I think that's wrong. I don't
think you're going to get your message across and encourage any
change."

That said, Friends of Animals are no friends to the hunt.

"It's a brutal and degrading way of life for everyone involved - and
Friends of Animals thinks it's time for this tragic, senseless
practice to end," says a group press release.

The group describes itself as a non-profit, international animal
advocacy organization.

The Telegram


09/04/08

Comments:

Paul Watson from Friday Harbor, Washington writes: WHo is Dave
Sishkoff? Never heard of him. I do take exception to his accusation
that we have threatened people. We have never done any such thing.
Friends of Animals appears to be wanting to cash in on an issue they
have not had much to do with and I question their motivation. I have
nothing to apologise for saying that the deaths of 325,000 seals is a
greater tragedy than the deaths of 4 sealers.



Captain Paul Watson

Point to be made here. Watson seems to think wearing a silly hat that says he is Captain is what makes him a captain but in reality he never passed a Captains exam and thus he is NO CAPTAIN.

Posted 09/04/2008 at 11:09 AM
Mike from New Brunswick writes: If anything the Canadian government
and the Coast Guard have been the aggressors and the agents of gross
incompetence. The seal slaughter becomes conveniently less transparent
every year.

Why is there such an outcry about activist groups when the government
risks lives by letting sealers venture out in non-ice class boats?

Thankfully, the EU seems to be on the verge of doing what the States
wisely did back in 1972—banning all seal products.


Posted 09/04/2008 at 12:03 PM
Jane Dough from NL writes: ....but where will I get my Seal Oil Capsules?


Posted 09/04/2008 at 1:00 PM
Thomas Buiter from Emden, Germany writes: What was in the years
1984-94 where did the sealers live from in that decade?

It has been talked over years and nothing happend. Last year over 1
million seal pubs died due lack of ice the year before over 600.000.
You really whant to discuss that with the sealers ? The annual harp
seal hunt isn´t sustainable anymore (when it ever was).

An international animal advocacy organization should do much more than
just talk a bit (btw. the name was written wrong, it has to be : Dave
Shishkoff ).

FoA should stay on their neutering programs, there they might doing
something right. Or do something for real before criticizing a hard
working man and his activists.

I don`t understand why enviromental groups have to weaken themself by
do a little bit for everything. Do what you can do but than do it
right. Keep the focus on the problems you can solve and stop working
against other which are doing a good job.

The lives of the sealers have been sacrificed by the canadian
government. Sure it is a tragedy, but I agree with Captain Paul
Watson, that the dead of hundreds of thousand other lives is a greater
tragedy.

Thomas Buiter


Posted 09/04/2008 at 1:08 PM
Lee Hall from For FoA - BC writes: Writing on behalf of Friends of
Animals (FoA) BC as Dave Shishkoff is over at the East Coast...First
it should be known that FoA has actively opposed this kill completely,
not just the way it is carried out, not just until it is done by some
different method, but because killing seals is an affront to the
interests of these beings who are killed, the parents who try to
protect them, and the integrity of the entire, interconnected
community of marine animals. FoA's view is well known and
longstanding. FoA has indeed "confronted" the kill since the Alice
Herrington and Priscilla Feral were up in the late 60s and early 70s.
Tragically this commercial kill still goes on. The question is not
whether the "sealers" are cigarette smoking apes (we need no degrading
references to nonhuman apes and humans), nor can this be reduced to an
argument between people paid to kill these seals. Yes: The government
decision-makers are the aggressors and are responsible for the mass
slaughter continuing. As are people who buy fur – that's the industry,
and FoA has opposed it consistently for over 50 years.

At least one Canadian citizen (Shishkoff) is on the East Coast working
to address this; may other Canadians citizens and residents get up and
make a stand!


Posted 09/04/2008 at 2:27 PM
Topcat from Bay of Islands, Newfoundland writes: Anyone have any idea
how you go about starting one of these animal activists groups? Maybe
Captain Watson could help.

I'm hearing a lot of hype now, over the upcoming lobster fishery. For
those who don't realize, all these lobsters are caught and boiled
alive before they are good to eat. What a tragedy that these poor
creatures have to meet their end like this. Something should be done
about it.

Maybe Captain Watson can help me get a group organized. We'll start
here in Newfoundland and take it to places like Boston and other areas
that kill these poor little creatures. We'll boycott all fish products
from these places until they stop murdering the lobsters by boiling
them alive. Apparently you can hear them scream when you drop em in
the pot of boiling water.

Maybe there's an alternative way to kill them. Maybe lobster fisherman
could shoot the lobsters before bringing them ashore.


Posted 09/04/2008 at 2:36 PM
Thomas Buiter from Emden, Germany writes: @ Topcat

organize yourself. Anyone can do soemthing. Dont stand there and cry
like a baby. Like Nike says Just Do It

If anyone makes a little bit... it could be a big little bit


Posted 09/04/2008 at 5:13 PM
RP from Living in NB from NL writes: I think you all need to get a life.

It makes me sick to my stomach to hear a person say that the life of a
seal is more important than the life of a human. Why don't you ask the
families of those poor sealers who died last week what is more
important to them!

Have any of you ever seen a deer or moose get shot...it is the same
thing. People enjoy eating seals and hunting them like any other
hunting sport.

Why don't you start getting on the cases of slaughter houses killing
cows, pigs or chickens. Now that is a horrible sight and way more
inhumane than what any sealer does.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves for your lack of humanity
where human beings are concerned.

I support the seal hunt and hope it continues to grow!! And I think
you all should find something better to do with your lives!


Posted 09/04/2008 at 5:18 PM

Topcat from Bay of Islands, Newfoundland writes: @ Thomas

Thanks for prodding me on. I've already started to organize.

There's a new kid on the block when it comes to animal rights -
L.O.L.A. - Leave Our Lobsters Alone. I hope I can count on you for
joining our group.

I've got plans to go to the next Boston Seafood Show. Tentative plans
are for a group of us to remove all retaining devices on all the
lobster claws, and let them all out of their holding tanks. War of the
Worlds will have nothing on - Lobsters on the Loose.

In time we will rid the world of these lobster boiling murderers. Good
thing there are laws that make it illegal to keep those cute lobster
babies.


Posted 09/04/2008 at 5:48 PM

Mike M. from Cr. Bk., NL writes: Money is the soul root to both sides
of the seal hunt. Plain and simple.


Posted 09/04/2008 at 6:56

Teresa Platt from Coronado, California writes: These comments are just
as insulting as Paul Watson of Sea Shepherd's comments on the
fishermen's seal hunt:

It's a brutal and degrading way of life for everyone involved - and
Friends of Animals thinks it's time for this tragic, senseless
practice to end, says a [Friend of Animals'] press release.

Providing food and fiber from renewable sources is a noble, worthy and
necessary endeavor that deserves respect.

Every child should be offered the opportunity to grow up to be a
fisherman, whaler, sealer, farmer, logger or cowboy! These are
important, vital jobs.

Society should value, protect and celebrate the hard work of all those
providing us with food and fiber.

See http://www.sealsandsealing.net for more info.


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