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Help required for these polls. Vote Please. #659959
03/31/08 05:46 PM
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If you wish to protect your right to hunt and trap you must show the pollsters that you are willing to voice your support for trapping & hunting. Please pass this on to every pro hunting/ gun club/ and trapping forum you are involved in.

Take a few seconds and support natural fiber and sustainable use. Vote NOW!

POLL NUMBER 1:

http://www.ctv.ca/news

(See far right side) Today's Question: Tension is mounting again over the annual seal hunt.Whom do you support? • Sealers• Anti-hunt activists As of midday Monday, March 31, the results were as follows:


Tension is mounting again over the annual seal hunt. Whom do you support? Sealers 3669 votes (62 %)

Anti-hunt activists 2205 votes (38 %)

Total Votes: 5874


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Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: Mira Trapper] #659964
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Voted!!


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Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: Mira Trapper] #659969
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It is now 59/41 in favor of the sealers.

Need to get on it.


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Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: Mira Trapper] #659999
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POLL NUMBER 2: As of midday Monday, March 31, the results were as follows:Natural fiber fur is currently losing the vote so Vote NOW! Spread the word! Does this <the article below> change your mind about fur?


http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/consumers/fur.html

No, I've always thought it was a good choice (391) 34%
Yes, I might consider it now (53) 5%
Interesting, but not yet convinced (55) 5%
No way, ridiculous (635) 56% Total Votes: 1134

VOTE NOW! Full article follows:

CBC News (CAN)
In Depth Consumers Fur: sustainable resource or fashion faux pas?Last Updated March 20, 2008

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/consumers/fur.html

After facing decades of criticism, Canada's fur industry is the latest group to tout itself as being green. Fur is biodegradable, durable and supports trappers who have a stake in protecting the environment,according to the Fur Council of Canada. "Fur itself is a natural resource, it's very well-regulated in Canada,there's no endangered species used," said Alan Herscovici, the FCC's executive vice-president said in March 2008. "Some of these animal activist groups who say we don't need fur anymore, we have synthetics - but wait a minute, most of those synthetics are made with petroleum petrochemicals and petroleum, of course, is a non-renewable resource."


However, many fur opponents reject such arguments, saying buying fur raises serious ethical and environmental questions. While the FCC in March promoted trappers' connection to the land, critics noted that animal farms yield the majority of pelts used for clothing and accessories.


Indeed, the value of ranch-raised pelts in 2005 tallied$90.2 million while the wildlife pelt industry was valued at $31.4million, according to Statistics Canada. Ainslie Willock, director of the advocacy group Canadians for Fur-bearing Animals, criticizes the FCC's campaign as being disingenuous. Willock says she believes the campaign has not been successful in swaying the public. "It's just sheer opportunism. There's nothing about fur that is so-called green or environmentally friendly," she said. "Clearly fur isn't green from a cruelty perspective and also from an environmental perspective and I find it highly offensive," she said.


Frigid winter spurs demand for Canadian pelts Still, in certain segments, fur is becoming a hot commodity and Canadian trappers are benefiting. Blustery frigid weather in Russia and China in the winter of 2007-08has rendered Canadian furs a hot commodity. Trapper Samuel McLeod of Aklavik, N.W.T., says with fur coats now priced at $50,000, his pelts are accordingly selling for between 20 and 50 per cent more at auction.


Similarly, the Yukon Trappers Association said sales of the Yukon lynx have been promising, fetching an average of $300 a pelt. "There has been some just phenomenal fur coming in and now with these prices coming up, it is getting a lot more encouraging," said the association's president, Wendy Fornier.


In haute-couture circles, fur is still a provocative matter. In February, designer Jean-Paul Gaultier made headlines with his new line which incorporated wild animal pets with heads and paws attached. Conversely, designer and PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) campaigner Stella McCartney has spoken out against the use of fur and doesn't use animal skin in her collections.


Is fur really green? Consumers wading into the debate will find a spate of arguments on the merits and harms of fur. A counterargument meets every argument in the fur debate. For example, many activists including PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) cite a 1979 University of Michigan study that found the process of rearing ranch-raised animals consumes 20 times the energy as compared with a synthetic fur coat.


Comparable studies taking into account technological advances have not since been conducted. Meanwhile, the FCC says that up to four litres of petroleum is used to make synthetic coats. Similarly, the anti-fur lobby argues that furs are not eco-friendly because chemicals including chromium and formaldehyde are used to treat them.


However, the FCC says that while small amounts of formaldehyde are used in the tanning process, fur pelts are primarily treated with natural products including table salt, water and lanolin.

Finding middle ground in the debate can be difficult. But at the very least, the campaign is spurring relevant and important discussions,says John Fryxell, a zoology professor at the University of Guelph. Fryxell says that he doesn't subscribe to the idea that trapping is essential to maintain the health of wildlife populations but he notes that human use of animals can be sustainable. He also notes people who stand to benefit from wildlife tend to be active in protecting their habitats. "Society needs to make judgments," he said. "What I find intriguing about the campaign is I think it generates some discussion about the relative merits of synthetics that we often presume are benign but that there is a definite footprint on our environment that is imposed by using non-renewable resources - I think we're all beginning to recognize that more and more," he said. "On the other hand, there have been some very heated debates about fur trapping and those arguments also need to be taken into consideration..



It's not clear-cut one way or the other but we're going to have make choices between shades of grey."


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Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: Mira Trapper] #660004
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Be sure to pass onto other groups guys because it is time we voiced our opinion as groups effected by ARA lies and not as individuals.


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Voted on both!I'll go post this on other sites.


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voted on both


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Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: bglong] #660265
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Got my Vote for both of them.

Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: Zeak] #660302
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Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: RockyII] #660339
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wait.. i dont understand the question for the 2nd one.

Last edited by kmuellertrapper; 03/31/08 08:45 PM.


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pic the first one, best choice

Re: Help required for these polls. Vote Please. [Re: mntrapperboy] #660966
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To The Top. Hope you folks take a minute of your time to address these polls and pass them on to other folks that would support fur industry.


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I voted and sent it to two buddies.

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The first poll ended yesterday with about 60 % supporting sealers. The second poll is still active and we have gained a lot of ground since the link was first provided last week. Be sure to get other folks you feel that could support the fur & hunting groups to vote from other sites.


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Should also let you folks know what the Canadian government thinks of Paul Watson & the Sea Shepherd trickery.



Marketwire
FISHERIES AND OCEANS CANADA
DFO: Minister Hearn Calls for Extremist Animal Rights Group to Respect
the Safety of Sealers
Mar 31, 2008 15:29 ET
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=838278

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - March 31, 2008) - The Honourable Loyola
Hearn, Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, today issued the following
statement:

Allegations made recently by an extremist animal rights group that
they were "rammed" by a Canadian Coast Guard vessel are completely
untrue.

On March 30, 2008, while attempting to provoke a confrontation, the
Farley Mowat maneuvered itself in front of the Coast Guard vessel Des
Groseilliers to cause a collision between the two vessels. The CCG
icebreaker was taking part in seal hunt enforcement operations at the
time.

This organization is known to use this tactic to generate photo
opportunities, which generate publicity and bolster their fundraising
efforts - an action I find despicable.

The first few days of this year's hunt have been particularly
challenging, with approximately half a dozen search and rescue
missions undertaken, including the tragic loss of life aboard the
L'Acadien II, and the rescue of several sealers who abandoned their
sinking vessel.

Members of the Sea Shepherd Society, who tried to attract media
attention by manoeuvring their boat to cause a collision with a Coast
Guard vessel, should reconsider their shameful tactics which
jeopardize the safety and security of people involved in the annual
seal hunt. If the crew of the Farley Mowat valued life as much as they
say they do, they would immediately remove themselves from the area,
and not attack Coast Guard vessels while they protect our sealers.

The Government of Canada continues to stand up for Canadian sealers
and will defend their interests at home and on the world stage.

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca

For more information, please contact

Fisheries and Oceans Canada, Ottawa
Phil Jenkins
Media Relations
613-990-7537

or

Fisheries and Oceans Canada, Ottawa
Joshua Zanin
Special Assistant, Communications
Office of the Minister
613-992-3474


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