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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Blaine County] #6599664
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
I see a pattern from Trump on dealing with the gun issue.The man is far smarter than any body gives him credit.And the media,for how smart and elite they think they are,can't seem to see when they are being played like a fiddle.


If he's "playing" the media isn't it possible that he is "playing" his base? Self promoters play everyone.

If trying to keep all the promises he made that got him elected is considered playing his base,,then let him keep on playin.


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: gryhkl] #6599667
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we must remember that hillary got nearly 3 million more votes than trump did last time and his support has gotten worse since then.


I don't know...I voted more AGAINST Hitlery, than FOR Trump last time.

Now? I'd vote for him against any mainstream Republican (if any of them had a big enough "set" to run against him) in the primary.

why? because he HAS a "set".

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599671
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Outside sheer voter fraud? Trump has next election wrapped up all ready!

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599672
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I mean

Them DEM's are running a hate America and everything is racist campaign.

They hate America
They hate trump
And they want everyone to know it
and are doing an outstanding job at making sure everyone knows it.

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599678
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Unless he caves on the second or the economy crashes, he'll be reelected.
Other things Trump has accomplished that even a staunch conservative like Grackel would support.
1. Allowed states to defund Planned Parenthood of medical funds.
2. Cut Planned Parenthood's tax funding by up to $60 million.
3. Permitted states to defund Planned Parenthood of Title X funds.


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Blaine County] #6599681
08/21/19 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
[quote=Buck (Zandra)]I see a pattern from Trump on dealing with the gun issue.The man is far smarter than any body gives him credit.And the media,for how smart and elite they think they are,can't seem to see when they are being played like a fiddle.


{If he's "playing" the media isn't it possible that he is "playing" his base? Self promoters play everyone.}C'mon,to what end?If you want to use that logic go ahead.Everybody's playing everybody else,right?Especially if you don't like Trump.Trump is running for a second term,so he 's going to play his base and pull a fast one,and go for anti 2nd amendment measures?Hows he going to win a second term pulling a fast one like that?I guess the next scenario would be he plays us all like fools and waits until he wins a second term and then spring his secret agenda on us.This sort of thinking has no end,there's always a suspicious motive around the next bend that he'll show his true colors.Hidden agendas,conspiracies ,etc, and it goes on and on.I don't buy it.

Last edited by Buck (Zandra); 08/21/19 06:01 PM. Reason: fix

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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: white marlin] #6599696
08/21/19 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Blaine County
isn't it possible that he is "playing" his base? Self promoters play everyone.


and the dems...they don't play the media, OR their base...


Of course they do. My point is don't hold him up on some pedestal of good intentions.

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599705
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It comes down to I believe in the man! He believes in America, and we haven't had a Pres for a long time that I can feel believed in the good that this country has done for the whole world. He does not take his salary, he said "this country has made me wealthy, and I will give back". Name me a pres that has done that in the past. It irks me to read this nit pickin all the time, and it can always be traced back to two things, either you hated him to start, or you believe the vitrol that msm, msnbc, cbs, abc, nbc all gush at every opportunity! Just to be fair, we need to have four or five more fox stations just to disseminate an equal amount of bull dung to stay even. I'm not fond of some things he does or has done, but if you do not forgive your fellow man, you are no better than the one your criticizing! Like Forest, that is all I'm gonna say about that.


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6599714
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
It comes down to I believe in the man! He believes in America, and we haven't had a Pres for a long time that I can feel believed in the good that this country has done for the whole world. He does not take his salary, he said "this country has made me wealthy, and I will give back". Name me a pres that has done that in the past. It irks me to read this nit pickin all the time, and it can always be traced back to two things, either you hated him to start, or you believe the vitrol that msm, msnbc, cbs, abc, nbc all gush at every opportunity! Just to be fair, we need to have four or five more fox stations just to disseminate an equal amount of bull dung to stay even. I'm not fond of some things he does or has done, but if you do not forgive your fellow man, you are no better than the one your criticizing! Like Forest, that is all I'm gonna say about that.

Perfectly said. You're really on point today Lee! Been testing the vineyard? grin


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599717
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Well said lee.

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599726
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Lee you ever consider running for President? You got my vote!

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: ~ADC~] #6599750
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Lee you ever consider running for President? You got my vote!


NO AND NO! Thanks Jayme!

Michael, the grapes are ready, I am not! Rained this morning, and have a VA appt tomorrow morning, so I guess pick day is Fri.


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599762
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What president has accomplished most or all of the things that they promised to do when they ran for election? Trump is the only one I remember.
The things that he has got done in only 3 years are astonishing.
I still believe he will drain the swamp of crooks and scoundrels. It can't be done with a crooked F.B.I, Federal judges, Department of Justice and rogue Intelligence agencies. If you had not noticed, those agencies are being completely cleaned up and the sheep seperated from the goats. Scaramucci model...lol.
This has taken some time. Only when the justice systems are clean can any real prosecutions begin. I am hoping for the rule of law to return.
The Republicans did not want Trump on their ticket. He is not really one of them. He's no Democrat either. Republicans and Democrats have become the uni-party and in my opinion have not represented the American people in many decades.
Trumps standing for the constitution and the rule of law(that would include the 2nd amendment) Is why, in my opinion, he was elected. America first didn't hurt.

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: ~ADC~] #6599767
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Lee you ever consider running for President? You got my vote!



me, too!

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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: squacks] #6599773
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Originally Posted by squacks
What president has accomplished most or all of the things that they promised to do when they ran for election? Trump is the only one I remember.
The things that he has got done in only 3 years are astonishing.
I still believe he will drain the swamp of crooks and scoundrels. It can't be done with a crooked F.B.I, Federal judges, Department of Justice and rogue Intelligence agencies. If you had not noticed, those agencies are being completely cleaned up and the sheep seperated from the goats. Scaramucci model...lol.
This has taken some time. Only when the justice systems are clean can any real prosecutions begin. I am hoping for the rule of law to return.
The Republicans did not want Trump on their ticket. He is not really one of them. He's no Democrat either. Republicans and Democrats have become the uni-party and in my opinion have not represented the American people in many decades.
Trumps standing for the constitution and the rule of law(that would include the 2nd amendment) Is why, in my opinion, he was elected. America first didn't hurt.




You get my vote for Pres! Well put!


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599873
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If you vote democrat you and they win the presidency, house and senate you can kiss the second amendment good by. Not only that they will remove the electoral college and not just appoint liberal supreme court judges but flood the court with added judges. In other words you are voting for the democrat dictatorship of our country.

No mater what you think of Trump we need to vote in a majority of pro-second amendment politicians so that vote never comes up.

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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: J Staton] #6599880
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Unless he caves on the second or the economy crashes, he'll be reelected.
Other things Trump has accomplished that even a staunch conservative like Grackel would support.
1. Allowed states to defund Planned Parenthood of medical funds.
2. Cut Planned Parenthood's tax funding by up to $60 million.
3. Permitted states to defund Planned Parenthood of Title X funds.

Don't forget supreme court appointments.Thats the biggy.Them ones stay with us for a long time


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599916
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The Inspector General's report is due out in a couple of weeks. A couple of federal investigators have had operations running now for most of 2 years.
I do believe that we are just coming up to the "interesting" part. It may well get exciting. I hope they arrest criminals and I care not for what party they are from.
Remember when we all claimed that nothing ever changes. That politics is crooked.
Do any of you think that one of "them" was going to fix any of it? They are the problem and it benefits them. They were never going to change anything.
It appears that Trump is not one of them. There is much speculation on "why" he ran for president.
I believe they are going slow trying to get people to understand what has happened and what is about to happen.
Gitmo has been expanded and updated. What for? Remember when Linsey asked Kavenagh about military tribunals for citizens? Why? For what purpose?
I am convinced we are about to learn just how "bought or blackmailed" our government really is.
Jeffrey Epstein? Yes....

Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Finster] #6599917
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I heard Biden has included an Animal Welfare platform to his campaign,didn't hear any specifics


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Re: President Trump: We Won’t Sacrifice Gun Rights [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #6600020
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
I heard Biden has included an Animal Welfare platform to his campaign,didn't hear any specifics


hadn't heard that.

but if true, even THAT won't stop a lot of trappers (right here!) from voting for him.

truly insane!

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