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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602090
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I believe it's the truth, hip. wink

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602096
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I believe you do, but i look at the source. You, lol

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602105
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Every market that China has that we frequent can be done and was being done by someone else before our politicians like gropin Joe got in bed with China! Our politicians have given them what they have of ours. And we can take it back or give the biz to some else!!!

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602106
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The reason business went over to China is the US consumer cant afford to pay for things made at home here in the US. The unions were great for awhile then they got greedy and things went south. If we go to another country to spend our money what changes. We are all ready hitting heads with Mexico, we are hooked on cheap and asking businesses to pull out of China? really where is the authority and I don't see it happening what if we were asked to stop trapping, who is ready to do it on a volunteer basis or give up our guns. I guess I don't see it happening. I guess we will see how it all turns out and history will be written. And now we got a democrat billionaire Tom something that is going to fix every thing. Every billionaire trying buy their way into the hill to fix things, its all about money. Speaking of had 21 fox at the NAFA auction sold 6 for a whopping $10.50 won't even mention the coon. Thanks to the coyote and cat market last season still smiling.

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602123
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Nah

Use to see a lot of: made in Taiwan, Korea, India, etc...

And when you do the math on jobs that are lost to our citizens by the ! mentality of "communist" countries can do it cheaper? I think k you will find it is way more expensive to have another country do it for you simply because they pay their employees less!

Loss of tax revenue, medical benefits etc...


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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602125
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All that went away when our Commie login politicians decided to run America down the toilet!

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602139
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Yep..Have to see what comes out of the G-7 summit this weekend in France..I'm sure Ivanka is with her dad and will have to hear all about that first..LOL


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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602172
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We are addicted to cheap, disposable products that we can buy over and over again so there is an excuse to go shopping.
Many want us all to believe American workers are a big part of the problem, but the majority of foreign cars sold in the US are made here. And foreign car makers build more cars here than the "big 3" American manufactures.......... Sure hope their governments don't make companies take their plants back to their home countries.

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602179
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They build here specifically to avoid tarriff's, number one reason. They also pick nonunion areas to build their cars, that's not by accident either. I'd love to see jap and Korean vehicles leave this country, never should have sold ourselves down the river to start with.

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: gryhkl] #6602180
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Bringing back manufacturing production to the USA is a long, long process and will need huge amounts of investment. If we discontinue buying from the Chinese for the near and foreseeable future those products will most likely come from other Southeast Asian nations. Many are building up, but to replace China short term will be difficult for them to to do and meet demand. Also I would anticipate that USA companies would be much more likely to invest and build in other Southeast nations than here. They can do so faster, with far less cost and far lower operational costs, so I don't see these jobs landing on our shore any time soon.
We continue to harp on the Chinese for their technology theft and there is much truth to this but I doubt if many realize that the "Silicone Valley" of the World is being built now in China. When that technology hub moves from the US to China then there will be far more issues to deal with. We sell a lot of technology and that goes into military hard and software. We are probably closer to loosing that market than we are regaining the athletic shoe market of or the apparel market.

Bryce

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: hippie] #6602192
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Originally Posted by hippie
Up yours grackle. trolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll



You Trump suckers can't handle the truth.

Jarhead


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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602194
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How much do think our furs will be worth if they are only sold to the costumers who lives in the USA?

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602201
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only problem with fur has been Chinese buyers trying to evade the tariffs imposed by their own country along with flooding the market with inferior goods at basement prices


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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602202
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Yep..I'll choose to stop buying..In fact I already have for sometime..selective purchases

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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: Jarhead620] #6602212
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Originally Posted by Jarhead620
Originally Posted by hippie
Up yours grackle. trolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll



You Trump suckers can't handle the truth.

Jarhead
...............and what is the truth? enlighten please!

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: wr otis] #6602214
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Yeah Jarhead!


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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: gryhkl] #6602215
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
How much do think our furs will be worth if they are only sold to the costumers who lives in the USA?
.......that's the only market we have!!!!! lol coyotes are north American market! and the oly thing selling at decent prices!

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Let's hope Trump doesn't do his master's bidding and get Putin a seat back in what would then be the G-8.

Jim


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Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: hippie] #6602225
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Originally Posted by hippie
Best president for America in my lifetime...Bar none!

Give it to'em Trump.

I tend to agree.

Re: Ratcheting up the China rhetoric, all the way up. [Re: James] #6602232
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Originally Posted by James
Let's hope Trump doesn't do his master's bidding and get Putin a seat back in what would then be the G-8.

Jim


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Eh...wot?

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