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Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? #6604021
08/27/19 07:38 AM
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We call these doe tags. Okay, antlerless tags. Nope, now they're antlerless harvest authorizations. What next? Same for otter tags, fisher tags . . .

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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604029
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WOW, did you wake up on the wrong side of the tracks this morning?

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604030
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Unreal


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Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604032
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That's government for you.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: EdP] #6604036
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Originally Posted by EdP
That's government for you.


Bingo


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604037
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Doe tag was a far too simplistic term for demonstrating just how vitally important departments, bureaucracies and those that run them are.


Eh...wot?

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604041
08/27/19 07:54 AM
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Just maybe they don't want to call them tags any more because we don't actually have to tag the deer with it? it's a stretch of logic, I know. I agree it's the government and they have to change it, it was working.

What if the deer identifies as antlered? Who are we to judge? smile

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604043
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Someone needed to justify their salary increase.

“I have an idea!! Let’s rename them HARVEST AUTHORIZATIONS! That’ll help clarify everything.”

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: handitrapper] #6604046
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Originally Posted by handitrapper
Someone needed to justify their salary increase.

“I have an idea!! Let’s rename them HARVEST AUTHORIZATIONS! That’ll help clarify everything.”


The LAST thing they've done is clarify anything the last few years. You dang near have to be a lawyer to make sense of the reg's.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604050
08/27/19 08:01 AM
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It's the government's subtle way of letting you know you are subject to them.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Steven 49er] #6604052
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
It's the government's subtle way of letting you know you are subject to them.


Well that makes sense. Being they are the King’s deer and we are just peasants.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604058
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With the switch to a per trapper quota system for otter next year, I dont know if they will still issue the tags or not. I have heard they are trying to switch to a phone/electric check-in for otters that would allow them to send the CITES tag in the mail rather than having to check in with a warden to get it. There are other states that do it this way.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604063
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Here's the number one candidate for cluster of the regs:

34.84 MB worth

https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/documents/regulations/TroutRegsFull1920Press.pdf

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604071
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"irreversible complete submersion" government speak for drowning, I guess. I truly wonder how many kids can read and understand the trapping regs.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Diggerman] #6604075
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
WOW, did you wake up on the wrong side of the tracks this morning?


Nah . . . just having a hard time understanding why.

Imagine a couple of deer hunters sitting in the local tavern Saturday night. Their third buddy who hunted a different area approaches the table and one of the fellas sitting there says . . . "Hey Joe! Did you fill your antlerless harvest authorization?"

Joe, feeling a bit bummed over not seeing any deer, repies . . . "Nope, didn't see any antlerless Odocoileus virgininus (you know this is coming someday) and by golly you can kiss my gluteus maximus if you bring that subject up again!"

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604077
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When are they going to make them gender neutral? crazy

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: k snow] #6604081
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Originally Posted by k snow
"irreversible complete submersion" government speak for drowning, I guess. I truly wonder how many kids can read and understand the trapping regs.


You're taunting me this morning buddy.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604086
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It's a mess and only going to get worse. I have the warden's number in my phone and call often to ask about his interpretation of the rules.

Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Muskrat] #6604091
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either the term authorizations is a push to making the "public" realize where the "Authority" comes from to harvest deer.

or

since there is actually no paper tag anymore just an authorization number on a web page and it is web registration or phone call in with some deer registration stations left to handle those who may not like the electronic way.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Really? Why can't DNR follow the KISS system? [Re: Chukar] #6604095
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Originally Posted by Chukar
When are they going to make them gender neutral? crazy


too late they mostly already have, antlered and antler-less sometimes a Doe will have a rack and young bucks or those less than 3 inches are antler-less.

they keeps telling me , your Sex is not your Gender , the sex is just the parts you were born with unless those parts have been surgically altered.

they is the preferred pronoun of the person telling me this ,which is often very confusing when they talk about other theys using they as a singular like him or her and I always have to ask if They has a mouse in their pocket.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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