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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: Boco] #6607407
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Originally Posted by Boco
There was no mass shooting in your example-those are just robberies and gang stuff.
I am talking about the mass shooter during the act or after the fact,that law enforcement handles,Not some assumed thing that might have happened.


here is a list of them https://crimeresearch.org/2019/05/uber-driver-in-chicago-stops-mass-public-shooting/

why few people remember them is they hardly make one 24 hour news cycle.

you also can say it wasn't mass enough because they were stopper early


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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: Boco] #6607412
09/01/19 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Once the mass shootings start,that never happens,its always law enforcement that plugs the perp.Sometimes an armed citizen will prevent an armed robbery,but I never heard of a mass shooter being taken out by an armed citizen.Everyone is too busy running away.


Incorrect. The left wing media won't report it because it won't help their cause in taking our guns from us.


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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607413
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You people are assuming on what might have happened.and you know the definition of an assumer.Maybe some aborted fetuses could have grown up to be mass shooters.
Fact is none of the mass shootings since and including the texas tower shooting have been stopped by joe public.They were stopped by LE.

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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607414
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I think that persons that are police trained and thoroughly investigated should be allowed to carry concealed. This goes for sitting in church, or in Walmart, at a football game, or on a cruise ship.
If these nut jobs know that there are hidden guns in crowds they might think twice. Too much monkey see, monkey do imitators. I support police, what they have to endure. Too many liberal justices around. If a shooter is taken alive he should be tried the next day and executed if found guilty. What kind of a society have we become, that we have to worry about family member might get killed at church, school, or Walmart?

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: Boco] #6607415
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Originally Posted by Boco
You people are assuming on what might have happened.and you know the definition of an assumer.Maybe some aborted fetuses could have grown up to be mass shooters.
Fact is none of the mass shootings since and including the texas tower shooting have been stopped by joe public.They were stopped by LE.



Wow, guess you can't read.

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607416
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What the H are you talking about?


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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: hippie] #6607422
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by Boco
There was no mass shooting in your example-those are just robberies and gang stuff.
I am talking about the mass shooter during the act or after the fact,that law enforcement handles,Not some assumed thing that might have happened.



What you don't know, you don't know.

Happens more often than ya think, just that most news sources don't want to say so.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-ch...ood-guy-with-gun-takes-down-mass-shooter


This is what i'm talking about.
Just two years ago abd there's alot more people have posted for you to read, or maybe have someone else read for ya?

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607424
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My computer antivirus wont open links to sketchy sites.
Don't be a lazy lump. Type what you want to say.


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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607427
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Fox news sketchy?

Stay in the dark then.

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607430
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Boco, just type, shooters stopped by armed citizens.
On Google, if you have that up there.

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607432
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He still won't be able to read what google brings up Dog.

Guess that's why he thinks no one has been stopped since the 60's. lol

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607433
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I did that already,still it is only like gang related or assumptions that the guy taken out would have been a mass shooter.
Only one example of a guy with an ar who stopped a texas church shooter who lived next door,and got his rifle to engage the guy.
That is a far cry from a citizen carrying a sidearm engaging a heavily armed mass shooter.
maybe joe public should start packing an AR with a 50 round mag when heading out to the grocery store in case he encounters a mass shooter,lol.
Its a myth-it just doesn't happen.LE always responsible for eliminating the mass shooters,not joe public.
And it is obviously not a deterrent,since Texans are supposedly heavily armed,and they apparently have more than their share of mass shootings.

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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: Fisher Man] #6607435
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Originally Posted by Fisherman
I think that persons that are police trained and thoroughly investigated should be allowed to carry concealed. This goes for sitting in church, or in Walmart, at a football game, or on a cruise ship.
If these nut jobs know that there are hidden guns in crowds they might think twice. Too much monkey see, monkey do imitators. I support police, what they have to endure. Too many liberal justices around. If a shooter is taken alive he should be tried the next day and executed if found guilty. What kind of a society have we become, that we have to worry about family member might get killed at church, school, or Walmart?


What is "thoroughly" investigated? There a millions of gun owners that passed a back ground check and legally can own guns. What more do you need to carry concealed?


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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607436
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There are many examples of both in the links White, Pete and i posted for ya.

Too many to write out for ya.

And no, it's not a deterrant. The one 2 years ago happened in Texas where 26 were killed before the church neighbor came out and put a couple in the guy.

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Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: hippie] #6607443
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Originally Posted by hippie
There are many examples of both in the links White, Pete and i posted for ya.

Too many to write out for ya.

And no, it's not a deterrant. The one 2 years ago happened in Texas where 26 were killed before the church neighbor came out and put a couple in the guy.



I looked into that link to copy and paste on here for Boco....youre right - too many accounts to do it all. And in not a few, police themselves said that the armed citizen stopped a lot of lives from being lost ...so there would have been a lot more shot if not for the armed citizen.

That is reassuring to know these accounts.At least it is for me.

Boco, if your computer wont allow you link access, go somewhere . to friends, etc....even on a smartphone, find these links here and read through them.

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: Boco] #6607478
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Originally Posted by Boco
There was no mass shooting in your example-


Because the shooters were stopped by armed citizens before the incidents turned into mass shootings!


Eh...wot?

Re: Another Texas Shooting in Odessa & Midland [Re: walleyed] #6607562
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ok how about the FBI admitting it
The FBI’s recently released “Active Shooter Incidents in the United States in 2016 and 2017” report [PDF] indicates 10 percent of crimes that qualify for inclusion in the paper were stopped by a law-abiding citizen with a gun. The figure represents more than a three-fold increase from the agency’s 2000-2013 study [PDF], when the figure was 3.1 percent.
https://www.shootingillustrated.com...lights-effectiveness-of-concealed-carry/

10% of events that qualify as active shooter incidents with less than 2% carrying, if the American people step up our game and be the security force out forefathers intended we be we can do what the government can not.

when every man of age and many of the women whom are good citizens take the time to train themselves and arm themselves we can see real change.

but you don't hear about that 10% in the news for more than a few hours.

saving life doesn't lead as a story the taking of life does.

so the Phyed teacher that stopped a school shooting before it began never even made the national news , she was a martial arts expert and used her hand to hand skills to disarm him at the front door of the school before he even got a round off. heck you can even hardly fin an article on it , but it was mentioned in the active shooter training I took last year.

did you know the most deadly school killing in US history was perpetrated by the 55 year old School board Treasurer of that school. 38 students and 6 adults dead ,58 more injured.

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