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Why did they do this to these trees ? #6611856
09/08/19 08:03 AM
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On a plot of public land I hunt, I found several small trees with the bark cut all the way around and then painted with an aqua green paint. All had a small branch snipped from them like a sample was taken . Who did this and what is the purpose ? -Thanks

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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611859
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Beetle survey?


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611861
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It appears they were girdled for some reason.


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611864
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Drought or lack of info.? Sorry, just throwing thoughts out there.


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611866
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Girdled - Not by beaver most certainly!


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611867
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I believe the paint is herbicide to kill them. I've seen it done around the last year. It's a government program that pays the land owner money to kill the unwanted trees within a certain distance of trees that have timber value like oak and walnut.

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611878
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It looks like someone did a "Hack and Squirt" to kill unwanted trees. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGM1VsTQoQg

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611885
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Tordon can be that blue color. It is used to kill woody plants.


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611893
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Are they elm?


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611895
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Hack and squirt, probably timber stand improvement=kill some of the trees to let the remaining do better

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611898
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All the ones I saw like that were less than 4" diameter and less than 6' tall . Why not just cut them down ?

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611901
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If you cut them down they can sprout back from the stump.

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611905
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Hack and squirt is fast. Hatchet in one hand and spray bottle in the other. I prefer just to take the chain saw. Hack and squirt will not work on hickory unless you go deep all the way around. Any gap and it will grow back.

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611927
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It replicates natural dead standing trees that are important to woodpeckers flying squirrels and bats that like to hide behind the loose bark . I t also dosnt clutter up the ground story as bad as cutting them .It makes for a very haxardous woods in about 3 years as they shed branches every time you bump one it makes driving a tractor in the woods VERY VERY DANGEROUS .
Leaving them Stand also reduces light shock to to species like walnut and hickory that have a tendancy to pin out (grow small limbs on the lower trunk] if the understory is cut completely away. The standing skeletons slowly transition to full sun over a few years
Myself i like cutting them it gives immediate ground cover and bramble growth that supper charges your deer ,rabbit ,and pther small game that prefer brush pver pure open mature forest .

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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6611984
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They were girdled with a hatchet or machete and herbicide applied to the cut. The blue color is simply a dye pigment added to the herbicide mixture to be able to easily tell where the herbicide was applied. We use this method regularly to take out unwanted trees/brush that are competing with our pine trees. If it was done on public land timber production is most likely not the management objective. Maybe they are favoring other plant species more favorable to wildlife. It is a very good method to apply herbicide to only the tree that you want to kill verses a broadcast treatment.

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Look like locust trees to me.


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: amspoker] #6612059
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Tordon can be that blue color. It is used to kill woody plants.


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Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6612077
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hack and squirt herbicide treatment. Dye was added to mark which trees were treated.

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6612079
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Invasive species that land management is killing?

Re: Why did they do this to these trees ? [Re: kyron4] #6612081
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Gotta get through bark to kill

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