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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6613849
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GritGuy definitely use common sense when exercising open carry. Unfortunately, some folks aren't blessed with much of it.


Romans 8: 38-39
Re: Open Carry [Re: trapperkeck] #6613853
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
In some states, you have to have a permit to carry concealed, but you do not need a permit to open carry. Nebraska was that way. I never had a concealed carry permit when I lived there because I could carry anywhere it was legal without a permit as long as it was open carried.


That is the way Michigan is now.


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6613858
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Yes sad to say they are now day's more seldom than those who do.

It's been said here in a manner of different ways, that if you have a license for concealed, you should not open carry, that it makes your CCW invalid, how that would happen I fail to see when you still have the choice to do so either. It's yet to be challenged in a court, but most instructors here will advise that the question may come up if your ever in a situation, whether you have your CCW license on you or not.

CCW here gives one way more latitude to carry in more places than open ever would now day's. I just don't see the sense in carrying open and arguing about being called on it in front of a whole lot of spectators watching the whole show, but some seem to like this kind of attention or so it seems, especially those walking around with a rifle strapped upside down over their shoulder !


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6613859
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If the big box stores do not want open carry because it is costing them business they will just have them declared SAFE ZONES. Now your canceled carry is gone. Sure you can do your best to cancel but IF you are caught you broke the law. JMO


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6613866
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As far as Open Carry, not in favor in some area's. Why would I want to carry a Colt 45 tied down going out to dinner with my wife in the middle of the city. If it is a bad area stay out of there to start with. JMO but you have that right!


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6613886
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You won't see what I carry. I support 100% the right to open carry, but 90% of the people doing it are nothing but rednecks trying to get attention and be a tough guy. And they'll be the first ones to get sucker punched by a bad guy.

Re: Open Carry [Re: J Staton] #6613904
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Bigbob does it bother you to see someone open carry?


It bothers me for several reasons.

1.I think , as James said, it makes others nervous and is lousy PR for firearms in general.
2. I can't understand anyone wanting to give up the element of surprise. It makes no sense tactically.
3. This is the really big one for me..... if I see someone walk into a restaurant where I am eating, and he is open carrying......I don't know which side this guy is on. Now, regardless of how ravishing my dinner date is, I have to pay attention to this clown that has some hawgleg on his hip, rather than the hot little number across the table !!


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Re: Open Carry [Re: James] #6613938
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Originally Posted by James
Why carry openly? Makes other people nervous, doesn't help keep the public on the side of gun owners.

Jim



A right un-exercised is a right lost! that is why

keeping the public aware that law abiding gun owners are real and there in their every day and cause no harm is an aid , if we just hide int he darkness then we are whatever they say we are.

but if we stand in the light , present ourselves well then they can see we are just people and not the monsters the politicians, media and antis paint us as.

just like when someone realizes that fur is a renewable resource that , we take largely from the excess population that would starve in an over populated habitat . the look on their face when you stick your hand with just a work glove on into a foot hold and you haven't lost any fingers broken any bones , your not bleeding. suddenly they realize the lies they have been told that they have believed wrongly.

when they are talking to the father of 2 well behaved little girls in the checkout line then spot your gun and your not a monster , your a loving parent who only wishes to insure the safety of your family.

it changes their paradigm.


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6613984
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Open carry guys (in public places) are just showboaters….period.

Tactically it's like playing poker and showing your cards. So it has nothing to do with keeping people safe...it's about attention.

Last edited by Calvin; 09/11/19 12:06 AM.

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Re: Open Carry [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6613999
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
[quote=James]Why carry openly? Makes other people nervous, doesn't help keep the public on the side of gun owners.

Jim



A right un-exercised is a right lost! that is why

keeping the public aware that law abiding gun owners are real and there in their every day and cause no harm is an aid , if we just hide int he darkness then we are whatever they say we are.

but if we stand in the light , present ourselves well then they can see we are just people and not the monsters the politicians, media and antis paint us as.

just like when someone realizes that fur is a renewable resource that , we take largely from the excess population that would starve in an over populated habitat . the look on their face when you stick your hand with just a work glove on into a foot hold and you haven't lost any fingers broken any bones , your not bleeding. suddenly they realize the lies they have been told that they have believed wrongly.

when they are talking to the father of 2 well behaved little girls in the checkout line then spot your gun and your not a monster , your a loving parent who only wishes to insure the safety of your family.

it changes their paradigm.

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You could accomplish the same thing with a tee shirt expressing your support for an uninfringed second amendment.
Also more likely to have a meaningful conversation with them.


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6614081
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear concealed Arms, shall not be infringed. smile

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Re: Open Carry [Re: gray dog] #6614082
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Originally Posted by gray dog
A right un-exercised is a right lost! that is why.


I exercise my 2A right every single day. I choose not to advertise it.


Envious of James...eh...wot?
James sucks!
Re: Open Carry [Re: J Staton] #6614086
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Cops open carry, why not citizens? I don't understand why people, especially gun owners, are so against this. It's almost as a person is thought of as bad/criminal, even by gun owners, for open carrying. I myself am for Constitutional carry. No permit required to carry open or concealed. Maybe I see the 2nd and the people who participate in that right in the simplest form as the amendment is written. Don't agree with the group that places stipulations like it must be concealed carry to exercise this right. Now if one is looking for the element of surprise concealed is the way to go.
As for store policy, it's their business do with it as you wish. However, if you turn it into a political statement not supporting the second, as Walmart has done, don't expect me to spend my dollars at your place of business.

All exactly as I see it.


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Re: Open Carry [Re: clintp1971] #6614089
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Originally Posted by clintp1971
I agree with James. I carry everywhere. No one knows it.


Yep.

Open carry only makes you the first threat/target of an armed criminal.


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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6614099
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The request from the big stores seems perfectly reasonable to me. They are not asking that no one carry in their stores, only that they do not do it openly. Here in Va, also in Tn and a number of other states, they could post a no gun signs and then even carrying concealed would be a violation of the law (misdemeanor in Va). That's not what they are doing. Instead they are respecting our 2nd Amendment rights while recognizing that seeing guns carried openly makes some of their clients uncomfortable.

My opinion on open carry is that it should only be done where open carry is a commonly accepted practice. One example being the carrying of rifles or large handguns as part of normal business for protection against wild animals. The firearms involved in that instance are very difficult to conceal. Another example would be people who own land and work along our southern border and are in constant danger from criminals running drugs or human traffic. That limits the places where I think open carry is appropriate to very few communities.

Carrying openly where it is not common and accepted makes others uncomfortable. Doing it just because it is legal does damage to the image of gun owners as reasonable and responsible citizens. I carry most everywhere I go when it is legal, and I do it concealed.

Re: Open Carry [Re: Calvin] #6614101
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Originally Posted by Calvin
Open carry guys (in public places) are just showboaters….period.

Tactically it's like playing poker and showing your cards.

Maybe open carry is like showing your royal straight flush..Might keep some yahoos from trying to call your hand. :)I think it should be up to the individual.Open carry doesn't bother me,,but I carry concealed myself.

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Re: Open Carry [Re: rex123] #6614118
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More and more being in possession of a handgun for your own safety in public is being vilified. It is a waypoint to the eventual goal of banning gun ownership. If everyone open carried a handgun maybe these mass shooters would be put down fast when they decide to kill a bunch of innocent folk.


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Re: Open Carry [Re: James] #6614168
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Originally Posted by James
Why carry openly? Makes other people nervous, doesn't help keep the public on the side of gun owners.

Jim

Some people, yes. Not me.

Re: Open Carry [Re: J Staton] #6614170
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Originally Posted by J Staton
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear concealed Arms, shall not be infringed. smile


Sure are a lot of people on here that kinda support the 2nd. until it makes someone else "uncomfortable or nervous."

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I think open carry in public places does great damage to gun owners. There is no need for it.
I nearly all cases, I think the guy "proudly" displaying his gun is doing it simply for the attention. Something is lacking in his life.

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