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Banning flavored E-cigarettes #6614998
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This is something I have no knowledge of but I was wondering if this is another government intrusion program or is it necessary on a health crisis level. Cigarettes aren’t banned but is a serious health problem.

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615004
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health issues, effecting your lungs much faster the cigarettes.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Getting There] #6615072
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Originally Posted by Getting There
health issues, effecting your lungs much faster the cigarettes.

Dont jump to conclusions.Turns out that a lot of the people having issues with the vapes,,added a little special something of their own to the vape juice.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615073
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Quit a few have died in the last few months from vape related seizures.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615086
09/12/19 09:31 AM
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Lack of regulations on what they make their products out of they said the base was glycerin and we all know what a sticky mess that stuff is. So between gooey glycerin and the mass of vaper you inhale it seems like a problem waiting to happen.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615089
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i think part of the problem with the flavoring is that it could be seen as marketing to minors


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: traprjohn] #6615100
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
Quit a few have died in the last few months from vape related seizures.

Havent you been watching the news?Most of them deaths were caused from the smokers ADDING drug crap to their vape juice.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615118
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they don't have to add it , Vapes started as a THC delivery device , they can buy the THC right in the pods the device takes.

2 minutes after they inhale the THC the smell of pot is completely gone.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615132
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the FDA should make all non FDA approved vape juice illegal.

oh wait THC vape juice already is illegal at the federal level.

you want the next kicker people are not traveling to Colorado to get these vape juice pods , they are getting them in the mail. sounds like a mail crime right ? USPS just isn't prosecuting any of these mail crimes , one of the most common ways to get THC is now through the USPS.

so much for all those laws they are very useless when now one enforces any of them.


so much for the campaign that pot doesn't kill any one , the delivery device is causing sever lung damage so that healthy young adults and teens are unable to maintain 80% blood ox after as little as a month of use.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6615139
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so much for the campaign that pot doesn't kill any one , the delivery device is causing sever lung damage so that healthy young adults and teens are unable to maintain 80% blood ox after as little as a month of use.[/quote]


And that is the quote pot supporters will use. It's the delivery, not the pot, that is hurting/killing.

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615166
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I have no problem if you grow some pot in your yard and smoke it at your house , I never did. the issue is when you sell it , mail it , super concentrate it , lace it with chemicals or inhale it while driving.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6615173
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
the FDA should make all non FDA approved vape juice illegal.

oh wait THC vape juice already is illegal at the federal level.

you want the next kicker people are not traveling to Colorado to get these vape juice pods , they are getting them in the mail. sounds like a mail crime right ? USPS just isn't prosecuting any of these mail crimes , one of the most common ways to get THC is now through the USPS.

so much for all those laws they are very useless when now one enforces any of them.


so much for the campaign that pot doesn't kill any one , the delivery device is causing sever lung damage so that healthy young adults and teens are unable to maintain 80% blood ox after as little as a month of use.


Usps isnt just used for thc cartridges. Mailing lbs of meth and heroin is the new transportation method. Some states have only one postal inspector, leaving it wide open to sent what and how much you want with very little risk of getting caught.

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615178
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Don’t know why someone would do this to their lungs, when they know the dangers.

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: DWC] #6615188
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Originally Posted by DWC



Usps isn't just used for thc cartridges. Mailing lbs of meth and heroin is the new transportation method. Some states have only one postal inspector, leaving it wide open to sent what and how much you want with very little risk of getting caught.



just like the millions of criminals who lie on a 4473 to see if they will slip through , if the court has failed to report their conviction , and some slip through.

some one probably mailed a small amount then bigger and bigger till it just became how they did drug distribution.

if there is never charge , a prosecution or a conviction , because no one is even watching , then the USPS is the biggest drug dealer running. isn't the definition of a drug dealer someone who takes money for the sale and distribution of drugs.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615197
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Well ya, you gotta send a test package to see of itll make it through!! Yes i agree, the usps does virtually zero to stop drugs sent through the mail.

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: l1ranger] #6615231
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Originally Posted by l1ranger
i think part of the problem with the flavoring is that it could be seen as marketing to minors



Minors are the ones using...


You dont see many middle ages people vaping. Just a bunch of teenagers who will say smoking is bad for you, but vaping is ok.

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615249
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Six people. That's how many people may have died due to vapes. This is stupid.


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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615255
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I heard last night, that the 6 people who died from vaping used home made vaping juice made with canola oil, with THC added to it. In my opinion the threat is being overblown to scare people, so they can be manipulated.

This is all about tax revenue. The government is losing out on a whole lot of money they counted on getting from taxes on cigarettes. The government will almost assuredly create some new board to monitor the safety of E-juice. To fund it they will add massive taxes to E-juice sales. Most of the money collected will be funneled off to other programs.

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Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615256
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Not that I support vaping but banning certain flavors? Where does it stop? Can the government ban black jelly beans?

Re: Banning flavored E-cigarettes [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6615270
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Booze, drugs and tobacco just tax money makers and something to kill the life that was given to you.

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