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Re: Climate [Re: James] #6617215
09/14/19 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Let me try again.

Suppose you own a valuable building. You are considering whether to insure it against fire and flood.

If you don't buy the insurance, and suffer a fire, your building is a total loss. Your small business fails. Your family may go have to go hungry, without health insurance. That's a pretty catastrophic loss.

On the other hand, if you skip the insurance and never have a fire, you'll save the money you would have paid for insurance premiums for years.

So what do you do? My bet is you get the insurance. The reason is the chance of a fire is so catastrophic, while the cost of premiums spread over time is a lesser burden. Your business won't go under because of the cost of the fire insurance.

Now, substitute global warming--a potentially catastrophic event--for a building fire. A change in our use of fossil fuels, including a greater cost of energy, is like the insurance premiums. You see where I'm going?

I don't favor drastic measures that would undermine our lifestyle. But we do need to first recognize the problem.

Jim



Genuis. Global warming, er...... I mean climate change insurance. I'm gonna be rich.


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Re: Climate [Re: James] #6617230
09/14/19 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by James
I don't mean to be dismissive, but there is no analogy between a criminal trial and global warming.

Your demand for proof of global warming beyond a reasonable doubt is a big risk. What if you're more likely than not going to be wrong?

I suppose there were people on the Titanic who demanded proof beyond a reasonable doubt the ship was sinking.

Jim

Jim, you need to get with the Program. Its Climate Change, not Global Warming. I can't believe that you missed that memo.
FYI, your people changed it due to two primary reasons.
1) The Pause in Global Warming.
2) Climate Change cannot be argued against since it has gone on since the beginning of time. It also cannot be measured due to the complexity and vastness of the planet/atmosphere, and its inherent perpetual and constant fluctuations.
(A brilliant strategy created by brilliant people seeking to keep the money train on time at the money station.)

Re: Climate [Re: rex123] #6806618
03/18/20 12:51 AM
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Deniers of science are for surely Trump backers. As everyone knows, Trump is a not bright (moron).

Re: Climate [Re: Rats!] #6806684
03/18/20 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rats!
Deniers of science are for surely Trump backers. As everyone knows, Trump is a not bright (moron).


Plenty of science deniers in the Trump hater ranks as well, there’s a thing called biology that they deny, like when life begins, and 31 genders.

Re: Climate [Re: rex123] #6806693
03/18/20 06:36 AM
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Rats must've been triggered again.

Re: Climate [Re: rex123] #6806697
03/18/20 06:42 AM
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Hopefully Trump gets us back on a path of domestic manufacturing again. Loss of manufacturing is the #1 reason I voted for him. Its an untenable position when your country produces vast amounts of cotton, millions of cattle, has huge reserves of uranium, natural gas, and coal, a very loyal Allie just to the north with vast amounts of iron ore, but cannot produce blue jeans, boots, or steel.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Climate [Re: rex123] #6806714
03/18/20 07:01 AM
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Nominating conservative federal judges is the number one reason I voted for him. He has far exceeded my expectations in that capacity.


Eh...wot?

Re: Climate [Re: Rats!] #6806727
03/18/20 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rats!
Deniers of science are for surely Trump backers. As everyone knows, Trump is a not bright (moron).


Are you a billionaire?


-Goofy-
Re: Climate [Re: Squash] #6806827
03/18/20 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Squash
Originally Posted by Rats!
Deniers of science are for surely Trump backers. As everyone knows, Trump is a not bright (moron).


Plenty of science deniers in the Trump hater ranks as well, there’s a thing called biology that they deny, like when life begins, and 31 genders.


true!

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