Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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We are slaves. Our currency is debt right from the get go. Borrowed from the Fed and given to us only to pay back plus interest. That's exactly right, we have been serfs since 1913.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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09/13/19 12:31 PM
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Keithc, I agree a 100 percent! Property and school taxes should stop after age 65 or 30 years of payment on a home or farm! Also if the gun owners / working man went on strike for one day it would show Washington where the power comes from! I went to a private high school, so why did my parents have to pay taxes for public school? I went to a private high school too. It's in the public's best interest for all children to receive a very good education, so they can reach their full potential. The only way to insure this is with tax supported public schools. Unfortunately, do to a multitude of reasons, many children still get a poor education. Keith
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: trapperkeck]
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09/13/19 12:54 PM
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I recall my grand father who died in the mid 1960s when I was just a child saying.. The only difference between US and Communist in Russia. Communist Russia their Government tells the people Government owns everything, people own nothing. In the US the Government just lets the people think they own things..
Not sure much has changed since Grandpa's time growing up in early 1900s. Just the players changed.
I don't mind paying taxes for the services I receive and pooled resorces should make that cheaper for all like a co-op. I do wonder why I pay for now schools when parents supposedly paid for my schooling. My kids are now long out of school and their now paying and have no children. So one of life's many inequity's. The K-12 bill is bad enough part what burns me most is what goes to tec schools and collages..That is just business way of having us tax payers, pay for people they used to hire low wage as interns and apprentices or hired to, on the job training. Now they only got to grab top students still pay low start wage and see if they fit their business style. Other take their degree and go flip burgers which they probably should have done to start. Way it is.
We are and have been as said "Surfs all along." Only ones that really aren't are those just living on street begging and stealing form others. Days of truly living of the land been long gone long time..
Mac
"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: trapperkeck]
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09/14/19 10:03 AM
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Public school poor kid here. That being said, most everyone I went to school with was in the same boat. And we had/have a good school. Far from perfect but good nonetheless. It was and still is a country school which helps in many ways. Farmers pay the most property tax which funds the school. One old timer with lots of acres always voted for every school bill, every one, but his kids were done growed up on their own. I asked him about this, he looked at me as if I were an alien. He told me, these are your people, your neighbors, your community, friends and family and strangers but all of this place. Give ourselves the best opportunities we can. I understood he knew a time when kids didn’t finish school, but went to work, out of necessity. Our views on schools and education were far apart, until then. I was given a good one by men and women like him.
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: trapperkeck]
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140 businesses have jumped on the "we have to do something about gun violence". Apparently, they do not care what anyone else thinks. This is a very scary time for our country! arm themselves
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: white marlin]
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09/14/19 05:15 PM
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"Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children." ...MalcolmX.
That's it, in a nutshell.
and WE'RE the Fools! I agree, you people are fools. I homeschooled my children.
Last edited by Dirt; 09/14/19 05:15 PM.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: Dirt]
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"Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children." ...MalcolmX.
That's it, in a nutshell.
and WE'RE the Fools! I agree, you people are fools. I homeschooled my children. YOU did?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: trapperkeck]
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09/14/19 05:49 PM
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I'll correct myself. The wife and I.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: trapperkeck]
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09/15/19 10:13 AM
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There's a chance that after the 2020 election, it will all be free in our new utopian world.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Are we serfs?
[Re: Getting There]
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I would like to know the names of those 140 business! Here's the link to the NRA's anti-gunners: NRA's Anti-gunners
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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