.. for the Democratic party this time around or will it backfire? Over the years, many Democrats didn’t push it in their campaigns since they knew the influence the gun owners had and it could destroy their chances of winning. Now, I am wondering if we lost our clout.

IMO I think it will backfire. Nothing scares me more than losing my gun rights. I will MAKE SURE I get out and vote and I think that holds true for a lot of people.

Trump has put 150 judges on the federal bench. Then there is the Supreme Court who the left just attacked again. Take into consideration the left is comprised of a bunch of lunatics.

Agree with Posco....

The gun control lunatic fringe is louder, but they definitely do not comprise the majority of American voters. Even some Democrats are seeing through this nonsense.

Pete

If 95% of gun owners, hunters and trappers in the USA voted we wouldn't have any of these problems to worry about.

I think it will backfire the same way Hilary's campaign backfired. Who can't win an election off of radical ideas. The media and politicians like to make people think that everyone is blue or red. Its clearly not the case. If you get an extremist on either side, you will lose votes. Trump won because he was a Democrat turned Republican. He has favor from the general public on both sides. Put an extremist in there and they wont get votes. The Democrat party know they don't have a really good chance in the next election and thats why they have all these no names or extremist running. They are saving their real candidates for the next election.

i agree 100% with cat_trapper_nv. I have been wondering if they let these lunatic radicals go nuts since they dont have a real candidate and when they present their next one that has a chance of winning he will look very moderate and appealing but really just be as bad as the rest of the lunatics.


Or Trump has gotten them so stirred up they have truly just lost their minds.

I know people who are gun owners that could care less if they want to take guns away. They are voting against Trump no matter what happens to them due to their vote, just as long as Trump looses. But they think the world could end any year due to climate change because of Trump. They are educated people too. Well they have schooling.

I agree with all above. It will backfire bad. I bet the Republicans get the majority of the house and senate too. The left has gone way too far with their Anti America agenda.
I know numerous people (mainly older than 55 y.o) who vote their party regardless. You can have Hitler or Stalin on a ballot and they will still vote for them IF they are listed as part of their party. That is why NM goes blue for the past several decades.

Tonight's Trump rally in NM was a very strategic event, where he knew we value our guns, freedoms and way of life. He made that very clear time and time again throughout the speech. NM only has 5 votes but still.

The founders of this country had no idea how stupid Americans would become.

Yeah, the Dems are blowing a good chance at the White House, with their anti-gun and pro-illegals platforms.

Jim

Hobbie I believe they did know. Its why only male land owners could vote

not true.

there are 50 percent of gunowners/trappers/hunters who routinely vote for the D-Candidate, or RINO's.

This morning the talking heads at uber-liberal MSNBC were lamenting the fact that democratic presidential candidates have painted themselves, and the entire party, into a corner that's going to be difficult to get out of with their anti-gun and pro-illegals platforms.

Can anyone define what extremists are, as in Cat Trappers post?

Left.....anti- gun, open borders, raise taxes and pro abortion.
Right.. pro- gun, build a border wall, lower taxes and anti-abortion.
All this with no give?

Does that about sum it up, or am I missing somethin?

Not sure I would classify pro-gun as extremist, that's just defending the constitution as written. Same with lower taxes, the gov't doesn't need to squander any more of my earnings than they already do, and half of what they squander it on they shouldn't be any way.

That's why I'm asking for clarification on what extremists are?

I don't believe there is an easy answer. Both sides will have a different view of what makes the other extreme. Defying the laws of nature and trying to rewrite the constitution are extreme to me. Bunny huggers think trapping is extreme.

Americans are extremist by nature and it's what we teach our children..There seems to be no voice for a moderate and if you say your moderate your quickly shouted down. Americans like to pick sides, be the winner, and anyone who don't see things the same as them. Well their either a fence sitter, a coward or pigeon holed to one side of an issue opposed by the other.. Until moderates on both side of the debate step up and shut down the extremist all or nothing voice in their parties. A true moderate is forced to pick sides and vote based on one issue they feel best fits their belief or not vote at all..

Mac

All I know is if James does not vote for a democrat. Its looking pretty good in the big picture