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Glycol to lure ratio #6612817
09/09/19 01:49 PM
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Say I have 9 otter anal glands that have been aging in mink urine. How much glycol should I add in the blender to make them freeze proof? Don't want the lure watered down but I definitely want it freeze proof. Should I also add sodium benzoate or no?


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6612821
09/09/19 01:53 PM
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None. Especially with glands and urine. I wont put glycol in any lure or bait.

Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6612891
09/09/19 04:31 PM
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Doesn't glycerin add a slight anti-freeze affect?


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6612917
09/09/19 05:02 PM
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Yes glycerin for antifreeze

Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6613311
09/10/19 07:11 AM
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So how do you keep your lure from freezing then?


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6613322
09/10/19 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
So how do you keep your lure from freezing then?


Glycerine does a good job.



Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6613362
09/10/19 08:15 AM
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Glycol will kill scents over time


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6613522
09/10/19 01:08 PM
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So it would be better to use glycerine in a gland based lure than glycol?


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6613562
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
So it would be better to use glycerine in a gland based lure than glycol?


In my opinion, yes.



Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6613634
09/10/19 04:50 PM
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Thank you, duly noted


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6615022
09/12/19 08:18 AM
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I use to use glycol in my deer scents when I first started making them. I used it for about 10 years then around 2000 I switched over to glycerin. I still have some of those old deer scents with the glycol from back in the '90s and they still smell and work the same as they did back then. I will say that I was using glycol in my cover scents, cedar, pine and dirt at the same time, and the odor would weaken after a few years in the bottle, so I stopped using it in my cover scents.


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6615718
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Contrary to the fad that has been put out there , Today's glycerin oil , the way it is processed , will kill some natural materials over time , it is selective . Back in the day when glycerin oil was processed from animal bi-products it worked great , the 'Ole folks knew it and used it with great success , Johnny Thorpe being (1) master that knew this fact . Today glycerin oil is vegetable processed and more fake like other fake Art. fake materials today that the animal's do not respond to , and it is processed Not to be attractive to animal's .. The 'Ole time glycerin oil was great material , as was sperm whale oil and seal oil once was . The animal's respond by not having anything to do with it in certain compounds , In some cases nothing to do with it at all .

Today the same is Not the same as it Once was , to the animal , To humans it matters Not to our sense of smell , but certain animal specie's does not like the effects that today's glycerin oil reacts within certain compounds , as animal's did with the 'Ole glycerin oil from 40 years ago back . This has been a known fact by Tests of different compounds and the animal's response when checking results over many months / years of testing .
Manufacture's of glycerin oil today process it to Not be animal attractive , same as many other materials . It is the rules with the FDA and others .

Watch out for certain manufacture's that process glycerin oil today , there are anti-trappers and hunters that help manufacture glycerin oil , more so today than years & years ago .

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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6616076
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I don’t make lures or baits so I have no skin in this game. But if you want pure glycerine, go to a pharmacist and buy USP grade glycerine. This has been tested. If it says 100% on the label, then that’s what you’re getting.


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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6618843
09/17/19 04:38 AM
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Nope , USP grade is also Vega grade . same as FDA approves ALL today , unlike years ago . the 'Ole folks are gone .
Natural is fading away , Art. is coming like a freight train get ready to get on , no caboose though at the end just maybe a blinking light , maybe ............................................................. :

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Re: Glycol to lure ratio [Re: Teacher] #6618844
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Originally Posted by Teacher
I don’t make lures or baits so I have no skin in this game. But if you want pure glycerine, go to a pharmacist and buy USP grade glycerine. This has been tested. If it says 100% on the label, then that’s what you’re getting.



Nope , USP grade is also Vega grade . same as FDA approves ALL today , unlike years ago . the 'Ole folks are gone .
Natural is fading away slowly by laws passed , Artificial. is coming like a freight train get ready to get on , no caboose though at the end just maybe a blinking light , maybe ............................................................. :
this has been coming for some time now it has started with big game first , but will arrive down hill to other animals one day

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