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Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill #6618851
09/17/19 05:38 AM
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Report: Trump Will Not Support Universal Background Check Bill

President Donald Trump is reportedly not planning to include House Democrats’ universal background check bill as part of legislation he supports in response to mass shootings.
The Democrat gun control bill is H.R. 8.
Politico reports that a source familiar with the White House “conversation on guns” indicated that Trump is not going to rally behind H.R. 8.
On September 9, 2019, Breitbart News reported that Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) asked Trump to support H.R. 8, thereby giving “political cover” to allow other Republicans to support it.
Schumer said, “President Trump has an historic opportunity to save lives by indicating his support for the House-passed bill [H.R. 8]. Speaker Pelosi and I have repeatedly and personally asked him to do this.”
He added, “[President Trump] can lead his party to support something that the NRA has prevented Republicans from supporting for years. That is why Speaker Pelosi and I sent the letter to him today, urging him to give his party political cover to pass … [the] background check legislation.”
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) spoke in favor of Trump’s reported rejection of universal background checks, saying, “The things that [the Democrats] are proposing just aren’t realistic and they know that and so it’s designed more to talk to their political base and it’s a lot more about that than I think an actual solution.”
Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...support-universal-background-check-bill/


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618895
09/17/19 07:39 AM
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Now that Beto has proposed confiscation, something the Dems have wanted for decades but would never say, nothing will be done. That's unfortunate because something does need to be done to make NICS work as intended. Not universal checks or red flag laws, but measures to address the free members of society being treated with psychoactive drugs that previously would have been institutionalized and ineligible to purchase. Also, to address violent youth offenders currently protected by privacy laws that cause their records to be sealed or expunged once they become adults.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618909
09/17/19 08:05 AM
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If Trump gives another inch to the dems in the gun control debacle, he will be a one term president for sure. It will make a lot of folks just stay home and not vote and let the chips fall where they may. I have heard this from a lot of folks down here. And they are not planning on just handing their rifles over to the government either.

Last edited by Scuba1; 09/17/19 08:07 AM.

Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618914
09/17/19 08:09 AM
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I'm not worried about the guy we got now. I'm worried about the next one that takes over.


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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Scuba1] #6618924
09/17/19 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
If Trump gives another inch to the dems in the gun control debacle, he will be a one term president for sure. It will make a lot of folks just stay home and not vote and let the chips fall where they may. I have heard this from a lot of folks down here. And they are not planning on just handing their rifles over to the government either.


This sentiment is held in our neck of the woods as well.


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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618925
09/17/19 08:22 AM
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And for what reason should he get behind the two biggest idiots bill ,when they have not helped him pass a single legislative item and only railroaded them.
GOOD i say.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618965
09/17/19 10:04 AM
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I have said this before and I will say it again , ordering a audit of NICs is already well within the powers of the president and the AG at the federal level and at the sate level the Governor and AG. if there is an issue it is how to pay for such an Audit , if any legislation need be passed it would be a line in the budget to fund such an audit. a review of cases starting at present and working backwards clean up the database.

they also have the legal authority to charge anyone who lies on a 4473 , they should start even if it is to mail a 500 dollar ticket to every deny with a letter explaining why and a number to call to get a court date if they feel it is in error.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 09/17/19 10:04 AM.

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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618976
09/17/19 10:32 AM
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I know somebody that cant pass a background check because he had a dui in 1975.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618978
09/17/19 10:33 AM
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I know somebody that cant pass a background check because he had a dui in 1975. Who would think that would make you illegal when you sign that form

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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618982
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cci, in MN. one can get his rights back to own a gun after a Dui. I would think it would be possible in Pa. also.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618984
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I know guys with a couple dui' s that buy guns, so not sure about guys who can't?

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618989
09/17/19 10:43 AM
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In PA. In 1975 you COULD have been sentenced up to 3 years. Anybody convicted of a misdomeaner that you COULD have been sentenced over 2 years you are not allowed to own a gun. These days the guidelines are different. The attorney generals office asked the ATF to waive it for people in that catagory and they refused.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618993
09/17/19 10:45 AM
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My cousin knows a guy whose uncle is related to a cousin whose brother in law can’t buy a gun.


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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6618998
09/17/19 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
My cousin knows a guy whose uncle is related to a cousin whose brother in law can’t buy a gun.

YOUR SO SMART!!! All you have to do is look up the law. Its true.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6618999
09/17/19 10:50 AM
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We owe a huge debt to Beto for blurting out what the rest of them were thinking, but just too smart to say out loud!

He probably helped us dodge this particular "bullet....."

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: cci] #6619002
09/17/19 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cci
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
My cousin knows a guy whose uncle is related to a cousin whose brother in law can’t buy a gun.

YOUR SO SMART!!! All you have to do is look up the law. Its true.


I must be, somehow I managed to say “that isn’t true” and never use those words. lol

My point is everybody knows somebody who cannot buy a gun but, do they have access to one?

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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6619003
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Ask a PA. sherriff that gives out the cc permits. They get quite a few denials because of it. Why doesnt the NRA do something about something as simple as that.

Last edited by cci; 09/17/19 11:05 AM.
Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6619015
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Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: white17] #6619021
09/17/19 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by white17

Yes. Thank you. I believe all dui charges in 1975 were 1st degree. Now they have different degrees and it take 3 in 5 years.

Re: Trump Will Not sign Background Check Bill [Re: Finster] #6619028
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It takes only 1 misdemeanor #1 which comes with an up to 5yr incarceration. Misdemeanor 1,2,& 3, are awarded by BAC (blood alcohol content) with DUI where I come from.


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